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Paul Klasek <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:
Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:48:04 +1000
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Hi John
Let you know when I get the software ; it's definitely not you who's
nutty , the correct optimising software DOES exist .
But it will require bit of diplomatic persuasion to lever it out from
camelot guys .
See you             Paul
> ----------
> From:         Paul Klasek
> Sent:         Thursday, 30 July 1998 9:23
> To:   [log in to unmask]; 'Shaafi Abdullah'
> Cc:   [log in to unmask]; Remy Lim
> Subject:      RE: [TN] C.O.P.S. Software problems
>
> Hi fellows
>
> Shaafi, are you telling me you ( camelot ) knows about the problem AND
> keep the general populus in dark ???
> You'll be collecting baseball bat , not the money , if this is a fact
> !!!
> Where is the software ; as far as I see it it's paid for ;
> and I can invoice you for a lost time and sue for false advertising (
> it does NOT optimise now ! ) .
> ( Hehehe, as Steve would say )
>
> Hi Remy ; could you ship me that wonder please ?
>
> Thanks a lot
> Paul Klasek
> http://www.resmed.com
>
> ----------
> From:         Shaafi
> Abdullah[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:         Wednesday, 29 July 1998 13:55
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Cc:   [log in to unmask]; Remy Lim
> Subject:      RE: [TN] C.O.P.S. Software problems
>
> <<File: pic25799.pcx>>
>
>
>
> Paul,
>
> All this people thinking thy're going crazy...think of the money we
> can
> make if we can save them all.  And guess what, we do have a genius who
> have
> a way to overcome this problem.  I have copied this email to him (Remy
> Lim), formerly our agent's sales manager and now has joined Speedline
> since
> early this year as our semi-conductor manager.  Remy has at one time
> designed a program to specifically NOT to step on already dispensed
> pads.
> WOW!  Now, lets collect the money.
>
> Remy would be contacting you shortly.
> Shaafi
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Shaafi
> Abdullah/CamelotSingapore/Cookson on 07/29/98 02:51 PM
> ---------------------------
>
>  (Embedded
>  image moved   Paul Klasek <PaulK @ ResMed.com.au>
>  to file:      07/29/98 10:25 AM
>  pic25799.pcx)
>
>
>
>
> To:   "'TechNet E-Mail Forum.'" <TechNet @ IPC.ORG>, "'Arroyave, John
>       (FL51)'" <jarroyave @ SPACE.HONEYWELL.COM>, Jeff Mallia <JeffM @
>       ResMed.com.au>
> cc:   "'Shaafi_ [log in to unmask]" <Shaafi_ @
>       speedline.cookson.com>, "[log in to unmask]"
>       <Mark_Ba @ speedline.cookson.com>,
>       "[log in to unmask]" <Mark_No @
>       speedline.cookson.com>, "[log in to unmask]"
> <Allen_D
>       @ speedline.cookson.com> (bcc: Shaafi
>       Abdullah/CamelotSingapore/Cookson)
> Subject:  RE: [TN] C.O.P.S. Software problems
>
>
>
>
> Hi John
>
> I felt the same first time we "optimised" ; the board looked like a
> cow
> pasture ;
> not amused at all .
> With the outline we battle as much as you , Nasir is right ;
> we can not rely on COPS . We program on machine , even that is not
> simple.
> Can you give me the contact on the German software fellow please ;
> we'll give it a shot too . We'll have Shaafi here in October ; when we
> address all the quirks .
>
> Nasir
> would you have any insight on programming the dispenser off line with
> unicam ?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Paul Klasek
> http://www.resmed.com
>
> > ----------
> > From:   Arroyave, John
> > (FL51)[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent:   Wednesday, 29 July 1998 0:06
> > To:     [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:     [TN] C.O.P.S. Software problems
> >
> > Gentlemen,
> >         I would like to thank you for your insightful information.
> > This was
> > a good sanity check for me.  I wasn't going crazy after all.
> >
> > Paul,
> >         It seems that we were doing the wrong thing by utilizing the
> > optimize function in this software package.  I had a feeling that it
> > may be
> > something that we were doing that was causing the foot to step on
> > previously
> > deposited solder paste.  You all have confirmed my suspicions and I
> > will
> > definitely not use the optimize function.  Could you please provide
> > e-mail
> > or contact information on the people that you mentioned in your last
> > reply
> > that had experience with Camalot machines.  Have you tried to
> utilize
> > the
> > outline function in the C.O.P.S. software?  If so any success?  More
> > about
> > this below.
> >
> > Nasir,
> >         I wish I had gotten as far as you apparently had with this
> > software.
> > When I mentioned my problem with my fiducials, it was still at the
> > programming stage, I have not even had a chance to test the fiducial
> > function out on the machine.  I think that we may have different
> > versions of
> > the software.  The software that I am referring to is Camalot's
> latest
> > windows software for the Camalot solder dispensing machine: Camalot
> > COPS
> > version 1.50.
> > What is happening is that after I have programmed all of my parts
> and
> > I am
> > ready to translate my Neutral file (Mentor), along with my library
> > parts
> > that I have made, into the Calls and  Functions that the Camalot
> uses
> > to
> > dispense the solder I get an error message.  This error message is
> > apparently caused by the fact that at the time when the software is
> > ready
> > for me to translate the data, it gives me the option of specifying
> > Layout,
> > Fiducials, and Offset in a file that called the outline file.  I try
> > to do
> > so but, whenever I enter this information and try to translate it,
> > this is
> > when the program "bombs-out" and I get some sort of memory error.  I
> > have
> > noticed that the values that are actually displayed in this outline
> > file are
> > not the ones that I originally entered.  I try to re-enter the
> values
> > but to
> > no avail.  However, if I bypass specifying the Fiducials and
> therefore
> > bypass the outline file altogether I have no problems.  It is just
> > that we
> > purchased this software so that the machine would be fully automated
> > and at
> > this point it is not.  I even tried to contact the designer of this
> > software
> > out in Germany, but could never get him on the phone.
> >
> > Thank you very much for the advice.
> >
> > John Arroyave
> > Production Engineer (Plant #3 PDF Labs)
> > Honeywell Space Systems
> > 13350 US Hwy 19 N. M/S 802-3
> > Clearwater, FL  34624
> > Phone:  (813) 539-2272
> > Pager: (813) 508-6700
> > Fax:  (813) 539-4469
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