I believe 48,000/hr was misquoted for Fuji CP6, The rated
speed is 40,000 comp's per hour for FCP6 and 36,000 per
hour for MVIIF.
In my opinion, I am in general agreement with you about Fuji vs
Pana chipshooters. A Fuji chipshooter is ideal for placing
resister/cap/discrete chips at high speed but I see Fuji need to
make a lot of improvement for F4G, machine vision software
and flexibility. They knew the short coming of F4G. This is why
they introduced FujiCam a few month ago. FujiCam is same as
UniCam that developed the softwave for Fuji. Fuji machines are
more robust mechanically and will operate without scheduled
regular PM's for months.
I don't have a direct experience with Pana MVIIF Chipshooters
expect some of their older chipshooters, but they addressed a
lot of deficiencies that I noticed in Fuji softwares. Pana Pro is
very impressive SMT manufacturing software that I like to have. I
had a full day of demo at its facility in Chicago last year. They
wrote a direct software to convert Fuji to Pana programs. It is
very easy and is simply a matter of specifying which Fuji
machine to which Pana machine But watch out, they just
release the software last year very first time. You should expect
some bugs and deficiencies but not as much as I experienced
with F4G. Ideally the double feeder feature is good but in my
opinion it is a nightware for operators. Sticking to the single
feeder system is better. Pana feeders are not as robust as Fuji
feeders.
Generally Fuji performs better mechanically and Pana is better in
software.
If you are in the maket for high-end chip shooters, you shouldn't
rule out Universal HSP chipchooters Universal HSP 4796 and
CimBridge software is a direct competition for Fuji CP6/F4G
and Pana MVIIF/Pana Pro.
regards
Matthew S. Park
NII-Norsat International Inc.
>>> My Nguyen <[log in to unmask]> July 23,
1998 9:36 pm >>>
Hi Jeff, Tuan, Aricc and other technet members,
First of all, thank a lot for your helpful advise!!
I made a mistake when I said CM88C-M is a product from
Panasert, in fact it
is a product of Panasert enemy! Big mistake!!
When you said 48,000 part per hour, could you please specify
which machine
model can run that fast? We are a memory and fax/modem
business, so we have
to run component size from 0402 chip/cap to 30-32mm QFP
daily(8mm to 44mm
feeder). Base on my study of these two machines Fuji tactime is
better for
small chip/cap, but slower for bigger component due to its nozzle
change.
In the other hand, Panasonic (MVIIF) is slower with chip/cap but
faster with
bigger components due to it smart nozzle set design + camera
recognition!!
(Very smart with orange color).
1- Carrier Tape Treatment: However the above is reality. We
experienced a
lot of problems with Fuji while running 32mm carrier tape. It
chop off our
DRAM (2-5% of TSOP), got jam in cutting area,...and we have to
slow down our
cam speed from 65% (normal) to 30% and we got to drop one of
our DRAM vendor
due to that reason. Did it happen with your machines (both
Panasonic and
Fuji)? Is the vacuum system strong enough to suck all the cut
tape carrier
and suck it to the trash box completely at high speed (0.12
sec/dram)?
2- Software: F4G is a good software, however, the way it
manages everything
into one or two file is dangerous. Also, we are limit in using
program name
within 8 characters. We have too many different product
configurations and
their name is slightly different from one to another. How
Panasert manage
that problem? I heard that Panasert software has a function that
can
convert Fuji program to Panasert program, is that true and how
easy is this?
Does Panasert software have any major bugs that we should
cautious?
3- PM: Is that easy and how often do we have to do PM. What
would happen if
we miss it for a month? Could you compare it to CP642?
4. Feeders: Theoretically, the double feeder system of Panasert
is
wonderful. In reality how reliable it is?
Please advise!! Again, your help is greatly, greatly appreciated!!!!!
My Nguyen
Viking Components Inc.
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688
(714) 643 7255 @374
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