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Mitch Morey <[log in to unmask]>
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Mary,

Probal\bly the truest definition I've come across is in IPC-2141 and some
of the other IPC specs. In IPC-2141 look at section 3.4.2 thru 3.4.3.

Here's a partial:

3.4.2 Relative permittivity (Dielectric Constant)
The relative permittivity, Er, of a substance is defined as the ratio of the
permittivity of the material to the permittivity of free space, which has a
value of 1.00. Dielectric constant is the term in common use in industry
even though "dielectric constant" varies with certain parameters. Factors
that influence the relative permittivity of a givcen material include the
electrical frequency at which the measurement is performed, temper-
ature, and extent of water absorption.
(snip)
The effective relative permittivity, Er', is the relative permittivity that s
experienced by an electrical signal transmitted along a conductive path.

etc,etc,etc

I've heard the arguements in interpertation before also, so I always keep
this spec handy.

Hope this helps,


Mitch Morey
Sr PCB Designer
ComStream Corp
San Diego CA 92121
Email: [log in to unmask]
Check out: www.comstream.com

>>> Doug McKean <[log in to unmask]> 02/09/98
01:54pm >>>
You're on.

Permittivity is also dielectric constant.

Ok, so what?  Time for real simple terms.

Think of it like lens. It's the ability of a material
to *focus* an electric field (electric lines of force)
as a result of electric charges.

The higher the dielectric constant, the better the
capacitor. A material with a dielectric constant or
permittivity of 4 is four times better a capacitor
than say a capacitor with just air between the plates.

The *air* cap will have a voltage breakdown at 1/4
the voltage that the cap with a dielectric constant
has across it. Higher dielectric constants increases
the electrical strength of the material.

You can do the same type of analogy with permeability.
Permeability is the ability of a material to focus
*magnetic* lines of force. And so forth ...

That do it fer ya?

Regards,  Doug

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> From: [log in to unmask]
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> Subject: [DC] Permittivity
> Date: Monday, February 09, 1998 4:03 PM
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> To:           IPC
> Date:   2/6/98
> Re:           Permittivity
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> From:   Mary Sugden                            [log in to unmask]
>         The Copper Connection, Inc.
>         Ph(408) 970-9838  Fx(408) 970-9184
>         hhtp//www.copperconn.com
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> I would like to have a clear and consise definition for the term
> "permittivity" as it relates to dielectric materials.  I have
> read no less than fifty different definitions and descriptions
> and still do not have a clear and consise definition.  In
> several of the references, it simply states, ...see dielectric
> constant.  However, the other descriptions and definitions of
> permittivity lead me to believe there is a subtle difference
> between the two terms.  The definitions for relative dielctric
> constant are fairly clear and consistent between the various
> references I have used, but the definitions for permittivity are
> ambiguous and inconsistent.
>
> For the best definition, I will send the dude or dudette a
> nice bottle of California White Zinfandel
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