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David D Hillman <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi! Don't apologize for disagreeing with what I wrote - disagreements can
be good things too. Yes, you are correct that there are some designs that
the pwa is too thin or the internal signal construction is such that
achieving a temperature less that 183 C is just not possible. However, we
routinely run pwas in which many of the components do go above 183 C and
due to the surface tension of the solder stay positioned right where they
should be (no fixturing required). We do some profiling on these type of
pwas to insure that we don't generate excessive intermetallic  layers in
our solder joints. Also, some of the larger SMT components, coupled with
gravity, negate the surface tension factors.  We  have pwas that I do not
hit reflow temps on the bottom side throughout the entire reflow run - it
just takes a robust oven design and some extra profiling effort.

Dave Hillman
Rockwell Collins
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Subject:  [TN] Double Sided Assembly




Dave you wrote|-
Hi Lee - two items to think about as you venture into double sided
assembly: your reflow oven capabilities and the robustness of your pwb
surface finish.  Reflow ovens that have both top and bottom side heating
provide some recipe flexibility to keep your "first pass and now bottom
side" of the pwa from reaching reflow temperature. Surface tension will
keep many components attached to the pwa so avoiding bottomside reflow
isn't a requirement but it does keep the solder joint intermetallic
thickness minimized. Secondly your "second pass and now top side" of the
pwa has seen one thermal exposure - the surface finish (OSP, tin/lead,
gold/nickel, etc.) needs to maintain its solderability so that successful
soldering can be completed during the second pass. Good Luck.
Dave Hillman
Rockwell Collins


This simply isn't the way I see things.
Peak reflow temperatures are usually around 212 - 222 centigrade.
Reflow temperature of solder 179 - 183 degrees.
That's 40 degrees difference.
Copper vias the thickness of the board 50 - 60 thou.
How do we create 40 degrees differencial across this distance?
Even if we do, vias with direct connections,( such as vias in pads ) to the
top side pads will be cold, while other pads will have no problem achieving
reflow.
Assemblies need to be heated up completely, especially multi-layer with
lots
of copper planes.
The issues of tombstoning are currently being discussed. Thermal
differences
for whatever reasons, (maybee inadequate heating/convection in IR ovens(
are
likely to be the cause.
Surface tension usually does hold components on underneath, but if it
doesn't then some means of support is needed while it reaches reflow
temperatures. We have used tooling jigs during reflow on our complex
assemblies, while adhesive is simpler solution.

Sorry to argue Dave but I do feel passionate about this point.
Thanks
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