Nicely put Max. However, I would guess that who ever posted this
message about service bureaus is someone who seeks confrontation,
and longs for the attention it brings him or her. In this case,
my council would be to ignore the message. Don't respond to it
at all, consider it beneath yourself to do so.
I also whole heartedly agree with you about the 100 attaboys...
It is strange that our profession has so little recognition and
respect, when daily prototype orders of $40,000 or more are completly
dependant upon our work. The number of correct decisions we make
during the course of a design is incredible. All it takes though
is one, just one mistake or overlooked item (even a minor one),
and suddenly the designer is lower than pond scum.
Down there at Compaq, you have design checkers, which from the view
point companies here in Silicon Valley is an "unnecessary" luxury.
Be happy that you have those checkers, they lower the blood pressure
of your designers. If for no other reason than increasing the life
expectancy of your designers, checkers are a good thing. Up here, I
haven't seen a checker for at least 15 years... but maybe I've been
working at the wrong companies.
So, the gist of this is, let's stop berating each other and get on
with it.
Ken Barrett
Cisco Systems WBU
San Jose CA
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I agree with Pete's statement. I also would like to express my concern
with this type of message on the IPC Designers forum. It is a waste of
everyones time to read such meaningless messages. These types of messages
will only give the "Designer" less creditability and leave more doubts in
the minds of the readers as to the "professionalism" the Designer
community has. It takes 100 AT-A-BOYS to wipe out 1 (one) AW-S---. So let
us all, for the sake of the Designer community, stop and think before
making such comments. With a sincere effort from ALL of us we can and will
establish the creditability we all are seeking.
Max E. Thorson
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This is a very unfair statement. There are good service bureaus and
there are bad - just like there are good OEMs and bad. If you have a
beef with a particular bureau come out and say it. Please do not paint
everyone with the same brush. Anyone could just as well say "Beware
all PCB designers - they are goof offs just looking for a pay check"
That statement would be just as far off base as your statement.
Pete Waddell
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Beware of services bureaus!!!
They are the SWEAT SHOPS of the 90's!!
The PCB Gladfly
PCB Gladfly
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