re: having a coffee cup holder on the aircraft control yoke is just asking for trouble:
Roger that but I'm down with $600 ashtray in place.
signed,
Old E2C IFT
I'm not riding with "Motors" as PIC if he can't have a last cig prior to calling the ball. He's the best stick in the airwing with a cig. Without a cig? None of us wanted to find out. No matter the Skipper banned all smoking in the aircraft and disposal of all ashtrays after that $600 ashtray made the news. All the ready room and Maintenance control agreed behind the skipper's back that the plane captain would ensure Motors always had an ashtray supplied from sooper secret stash in the line shack for his flights.
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Yes Joyce, most pilots are very skilled and steady. But the engineers who design cockpits must also share the blame.
As you probably know, I was a flight engineer in the Navy and flew on a P3 Orion anti-submarine patrol aircraft, and sat between the pilot and copilot. I'm not an aircraft designer, but to me having a coffee cup holder on the aircraft control yoke is just asking for trouble:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/iKM2jSGX14GmXep4A
Our flights could be between 8-12-hours long, so you can imagine that the pilots will need some coffee at some point during the flight. We didn't have flight attendants, and usually if a pilot needed a cuppa joe I would yell back in the tube: "Hey! Someone get the pilot a cup of coffee!" We would always be extremely careful, in fact the pilot or copilot would slide their seat back, and I would pass the coffee so that the cup wouldn't travel over the instrument panel in front of me. Everyone knew that if you brought a cup of coffee up to someone in the flight station, always leave at least an inch at top to avoid any spills.
Those were some fun times!
Steve
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 8:27 AM Yuan-chia Joyce Koo <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> you mean the pilots do not have steady hands during their work hours?
> You broken my day dream for traveling plan after my 2nd moderna shot
> in Aug... i can understand their unsteady hands using BlackBerry and
> doing business in washroom,but behind "wheel" with many of us sitting
> duck on the plane? that's too much. (thx god I believe most of the
> instruments are hermetically sealed if my memory serve me right).
> jk
>
> On May 19, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Douglas Pauls wrote:
>
> > Probably not CC-830 since it does not have a fluid susceptibility
> > test, but perhaps DO-160 or MIL-STD-810.
> >
> > Now I have to tell an "old guy story" as my co-ops call it. One of
> > my former co-op students, Charmaine Johnson, in her first week with
> > me, was given a project to assess the impact of Mountain Dew, Coke,
> > coffee and tea on a particular conformal coating (building off of
> > Bev Christian's work).
> > My reputation as a prankster had preceded me and she was waiting for
> > the punchline. It took some effort to convince her that it was an
> > actual project. Pilots spill a lot of stuff into our electronics.
> > ---
> > *Douglas Pauls *| Technical Fellow | Electronics AMT
> >
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> > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:43 AM lduso - Diamond-MT.com
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> >> Doug, do you think we should add an MD test to the CC-830? I mean
> >> if it can withstand that....
> >>
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> >> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 5:27 PM Douglas Pauls <
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> >>
> >>> Well Chris, I don't believe I can answer the question. Joyce was
> >>> kind enough to provide me the press release on the new flavors: MD
> >>> Vibe, MD Lightning, and MD Southern Shock. Haven't seen any of
> >>> them in Iowa for me to try. The newest one around here is MD
> >>> Major Melon. I have tried the Zero Sugar version of that and it
> >>> seemed OK.
> >>>
> >>> I would imagine that you are only talking about a change in
> >>> flavoring that it would still be the mildly acidic carbonic acid
> >>> that standard MD is.
> >>> Not
> >>> quite enough to strip paint, but close.
> >>> ---
> >>> *Douglas Pauls *| Technical Fellow | Electronics AMT
> >>>
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> >>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:21 PM Chris Knudsen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I've been lurking here long enough that even I am on the edge of
> >>>> my seat waiting for the response to this question...
> >>>>
> >>>> **We must know**, Doug?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
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