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Yes, I almost forgot. For really tough board surfaces we use PBC fluids in the plasma cleaner instead of conventional gases.



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Same here but we also have oxygen available that we use on hard parts

(non-CCAs)



Lloyd Duso

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On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 4:05 PM Douglas Pauls <

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> I would agree.  Every time I have looked at open air plasma, it appears

> that it works well for flat substrates, like bare boards, but not for full

> assemblies with any kind of topography.

>

> Out of curiosity, when you vacuum plasma, what gas are you using?  We

> generally use argon so as not to blacken silver parts.

>

> *Douglas Pauls *| Principal Materials and Process Engr | Advanced

> Operations Engineering

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> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:50 PM lduso - Diamond-MT.com <

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> wrote:

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> > Not as a standard procedure on CCAs but a couple here and there. It came

> > about due to poor surface energy tests and it does help. Quite often on

> > metallic parts like stainless steel and nickel before parylene coating.

> All

> > done in a vacuum. Although I would love to try open-air plasma.

> >

> > Lloyd Duso

> > General Manager

> > Diamond-MT

> > (814) 535-3505

> > www.Diamond-mt.com

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> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.Diamond-2Dmt.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=ilBQI1lupc9Y65XwNblLtw&r=lTRDjB8ojaf7ZaJ9DHeDAm7e-HFP9fxIkv6fRnV49HE&m=w13JU2W1V8UO5sePYWQBU04jy9DhgL4qXpKHfLaXFpA&s=xlQdpAXqDTjxXvzI2GcrjVv6--XbIxDd8PTkCsO-6WE&e=

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> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 2:42 PM Douglas Pauls <

> > [log in to unmask]> wrote:

> >

> >> Good morning all,

> >> Are any of you routinely treating assembly surfaces with plasma prior to

> >> conformal coating?  We do not, except for very niche applications, but I

> >> wanted to see if that was a mainstream process for anyone else.

> >>

> >> *Douglas Pauls *| Principal Materials and Process Engr | Advanced

> >> Operations Engineering

> >>

> >> *COLLINS AEROSPACE*

> >>

> >> 400 Collins Road NE, MS 108-101, Cedar Rapids, IA  52498  USA

> >>

> >> *Tel:* +1 319 295 2109 | *Mobile: *+1 319 431 3773

> >>

> >> [log in to unmask]

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