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I think there are a lot of people in Flint, MI who would disagree with you.

Graham Collins
Senior Process Engineer
Sunsel Systems
(902) 444-7867

On 9/27/2018 4:27 PM, Bob Landman wrote:
> Hi Denny!
>
> My personal experience is that lead plumbing is harmless.  My home is an 1878 Victorian farm house in New Hampshire.  The original plumbing from a shallow well was lead.  I dug it up when working in the yard.  I salvaged a piece of it and when I give lectures on the harmless nature of lead, I show and lick the pipe.  To misquote John Wayne, I'll quit using lead solder (when I want to make a joint that really lasts) when they pry the last roll of it from my cold dead hands!
>
> Picture is at link http://www.hlinstruments.com/Lead/  Note the discoloration inside the pipe.  An insoluble layer coats the lead and from then on,  unless the water is acidic and can dissolve the coating and the lead, the water remains lead-free.
>
> We met several family members who were born and lived in the home when we purchased it in 1994. They were still alive (and quite old).  I'm told all the family (back to 1927 when they bought the home) had lived very long lives.  New Englanders are tough.
>
> Perhaps lead the Romans ingested was due to the acidity of the wine leaching the lead from the pottery clay?
>
> Lead plumbing as a source of their decline has apparently been debunked:
>
> https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/08/plumbing-discovery-reveals-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-roman-empire/
>
> Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Dennis Fritz
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:30 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Prop 65 and RoHS compliance
>
> Yes, Romans had bad lead poisoning, but not very much from the pipes
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/02/17/lead-poisoning-and-the-fall-of-rome/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a87236da1099
>
> On 9/27/18, Nigel Burtt <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Kurt Vonnegut - "Timequake" (1997)
>>
>> "You think the ancient Romans were smart? Look at how dumb their
>> numbers were. One theory of why they declined and fell is that their
>> plumbing was lead. The root of our word plumbing is plumbum, the Latin word for lead.
>> Lead poisoning makes people stupid and lazy.
>>
>> What's your excuse?"
>>
>
> --
> Denny Fritz
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> 812 584 2687

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