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On Sep 1, 2018, at 3:11 PM, Carroll (US), Thomas A wrote:
> Wow, great story Bob. Thanks for sharing.
>
> Regards,
> Tom Carroll
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Bob Landman <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 9/1/18 3:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Which is better? Star Wars or Star Trek?
>
> Many years ago I was a manufacturer’s rep for a number of
> companies. One (AQ Systems) made a microprocessor analyzer for the
> Zylog Z80. A small company in San Rafael CA (Sprocket Systems)
> wanted a demo of the instrument (it clipped onto the processor
> which in those days was a PDIP package).
>
> They had me clip it to the Z80. I showed them it could single step
> it through their test program, examining registers contents. It
> was a very clever product.
>
> I noticed some large sci-fi movie posters on their engineering lab
> wall. I had just seen the first episode of Star Wars.
>
> “What do you guys do? Something in the movie industry?”
>
> “Yes”, they said.
>
> “Science fiction movies?” I asked.
>
> Yes”, they said.
>
> “Star Wars movies?” I asked...
>
> “Yes” they said.
>
> (Unprintable words) I exclaimed!
>
> “Shh.. you can’t tell anyone what we do.”
>
> It was the Lucas Film group that designed and manufactured a motion
> control movie camera. The technique goes back decades but they
> were making a much more complex camera. The camera was controlled
> by a PC connected to Z80 boards that controlled the camera and all
> movements of the camera. Zoom, X, Y, Z axis motions with the
> camera. The concept allowed multiple exact repeated motions of the
> camera.
>
> At that time they were shooting a scene which had the empire’s
> nasty destructive energy beam shooting giant walkers shooting at
> the fleeing rebels on the glacier on the planet Hoth (I think that
> was the planet’s name). The models used were about 12" tall as I
> recall. They would shoot then stop and move the walkers just a bit
> as they were stationary models. Then film shot in Norway of ghe
> actors would be overlaid with additional special effects on what
> was called an optical printer. A very precise tedious job. They
> bought the analyzer
>
> I got to know the engineers and the director of special effects,
> Richard Edlund.
>
> At one point they realized they had a problem with the lighting of
> the walker scene. The color/intensity did not match the Norway
> footage. As it happened, another company I represented (Farrand
> Optical) made a monochromator with a photometer so color as well as
> intensity could be measured and I presume, filters then used to
> change the lighting color to more closely match the glacier shots.
> I rented the instrument to them (they were back then, very
> concerned about expenses).
>
> When the later episodes were released I had the pleasure of seeing
> names of the engineers I'd met such as Kris Brown appear in the
> credits.
>
> Other customers back then were American Zoetrope (Francis Ford
> Cuppola and George Lucas's movie company) and Dolby Laboratories.
> I also represented Philips Test & Measuring Instruments
> (oscilloscopes and signal generators).
>
> Eventually, my experiences with instrumentation led me to start my
> own company (H&L Instruments).
>
> I still prefer Star Trek to Star Wars. They did a lot with very
> poor budgets for special effects back in the black/white TV days.
>
> And they had Leonard Nemoy (he wrote the book "I am not Spock" and
> much later "I am Spock".
>
> Bob Landman
>
>> On Aug 31, 2018, at 5:48 PM, James Head
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> I preferred Babylon 5 to both Star Trek and Star Wars. Mainly
>> because of
>> the lack of technojargen, lack of a character reset button at the
>> end of
>> every episode and the fact it was a long lasting political story that
>> didn't have to set in a sci-fi environment.
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 9:06 PM Alicia Balonek
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm sorry but I just have to jump in and tell you all how much I am
>>> enjoying all of these comments regarding Star Wars vs. Star Trek.
>>>
>>> Because of that, I need to cast my vote but before I do, I have
>>> to say,
>>> even though I had the privilege of meeting the legend himself,
>>> William
>>> Shatner when he gave the keynote at APEX in 2012, I never watched
>>> Star Trek
>>> so....it's STAR WARS for me. I was 7 years old when Star Wars
>>> came out and
>>> I remember that year for my Birthday, I got all of the figurines
>>> and I even
>>> got a land speeder! I sure wish I would have kept them!
>>>
>>> Thank you everyone for sharing all of your opinions today, it
>>> really kept
>>> me entertained.
>>>
>>> Have a great weekend and May for Force be with You!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Alicia A. Balonek, CEM
>>> Senior Director, Tradeshows & Events
>>> IPC-Association Connecting Electronics Industries
>>> 3000 Lakeside Drive, Suite 105N
>>> Bannockburn, IL 60015-1249
>>> +1 847-597-2898 Tel
>>> www.ipc.org<http://www.ipc.org>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TechNet <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Ron Feyereisen
>>> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 2:42 PM
>>> To: Technet <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: [TN] Which is better? Star Wars or Star Trek?
>>>
>>> Captain Picard should teach a masters class in leadership, conflict
>>> resolution and risk management.
>>> Luke Skywalker should go to Tosche Station to get his power
>>> converters
>>> that have been waiting for him since 1977.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Russeau
>>> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 11:26 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [TN] Which is better? Star Wars or Star Trek?
>>>
>>> This isn't really an apples-to-apples comparison. Star Wars
>>> storyline is
>>> classic good vs. evil. Whereas Star Trek storyline is space
>>> exploration
>>> with an occasional need to defend against tyrannical species.
>>> Who would
>>> win??? Hmm... I will grant that Star Wars ships are cooler to
>>> watch. But
>>> they are also always being pieced back together. So I don't know
>>> that they
>>> have superior technology. Star Trek on the other hand is more
>>> intellectual.
>>> Enterprise always succeeds even when met by superior forces.
>>> It's hard to
>>> out smart Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Chekov, Sulu, Uhura and Scotty.
>>> My vote
>>> would have to go to Star Trek.
>>>
>>> Joe Russeau
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sandy Gentry
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 2:49 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: [TN] Which is better? Star Wars or Star Trek?
>>>
>>> Would you prefer to defend the Federation and the tenants of
>>> Starfleet
>>> against all invaders, or would you rather join the Rebellion
>>> against the
>>> Galactic Empire? Who wins? Star Wars or Star Trek? We at IPC need
>>> to know.
>>> IPC APEX EXPO’s Passport to Prizes will reflect the winner of
>>> this eternal
>>> contest…
>>>
>>>
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