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Yeah, and no MEMs or BTCs would ever be allowed, either!

Hmm.....maybe we should go back to those old rules, LOL!



-----Original Message-----

From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Hillman

Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:17 AM

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [TN] High Temp SnPb solder



LOL - if we were following the old rules then there would not be a

component called a BGA.............. :-)



Dave



On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Yuan-chia Joyce Koo <[log in to unmask]>

wrote:



> according  to my book (old), you should NOT count  on solder as

> mechanical  support of ANY kind.  solder is intended to  provide electrical

> connect, use solder, especially high temp  solder (assume you are going to

> use it at elevated temp for service, or assembly sequence - such as

> multiple reflows... it is difficult to count  on microstructure to be the

> same as you initially put down).

> as for FEM purpose, I would use 50% book  value that tell you  - if i

> were you...

> my 1.5 cents.

> jk

> On Sep 20, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Stadem, Richard D wrote:

>

> Adding to what Dave said; you don't get something for nothing! Different

>> alloys have different physical characteristics and are used for

>> correspondingly different purposes and applications. Don't attempt to use

>> something not AABUS and fully documented on the applicable BOM.

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Hillman

>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 6:57 AM

>> To: [log in to unmask]

>> Subject: Re: [TN] High Temp SnPb solder

>>

>> Hi Ben - yes, there are differences in the mechanical properties and the

>> solder joint microstructures for the "high temp" alloys. Most of those

>> alloys have applications in component construction, specifically in

>> component die attachment. One very common alloy used frequently in a

>> number

>> of applications is the 10Sn88Pb2Ag alloy.

>>

>> Dave Hillman

>> Rockwell Collins

>> [log in to unmask]

>>

>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 6:40 AM, Gumpert, Ben <[log in to unmask]>

>> wrote:

>>

>> TechNetters,

>>>

>>> J-STD-006 has a series of 'high temp' SnPb alloys (some with Ag) that are

>>> close in SOL/LIQ temps. I'm familiar with Sn10Pb90 as a common high-temp

>>> ball on ceramic BGAs, but I haven't seen the others used. Are there any

>>> differences (e.g. mechanical properties) among these that would drive

>>> selection, other than the SOL/LIQ?

>>> Are some alloys more readily available than others?

>>>

>>> Ben

>>>

>>>


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