Well I learned that ASCII art formatting doesn't always look the same on
others machines as they do on your own machine after they have bounced
around on the internet for a while. It was supposed to be a face with a
look of surprise like this one:
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/Wow.jpg
Steve
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:46 AM, lduso - Diamond-MT.com <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I see a cat....a Spanish cat, not a French one.
>
> Lloyd Duso
> Plant Manager
> Diamond-MT
> (814) 535-3505
> www.Diamond-mt.com
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 11:44 AM Douglas Pauls <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Is this a TechNet Rohrshach test?
> >
> > Doug Pauls
> > Principal Materials and Process Engineer
> > Rockwell Collins
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:46 AM Steve Gregory <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
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> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 8:31 AM, lduso - Diamond-MT.com <
> > > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I agree. Even stripping a board completely there will always be some
> > > > coating left between fine-pitch leads or under components. Normally,
> it
> > > is
> > > > only stripped for repair. Then recoated with 1A33 again.
> > > >
> > > > Then again, I have customers tell me to apply 1B31 over parylene.
> > > >
> > > > Lloyd Duso
> > > > Plant Manager
> > > > Diamond-MT
> > > > (814) 535-3505
> > > > www.Diamond-mt.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 10:24 AM Douglas Pauls <
> > > > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I don't know Chris, I would consider scrapping the assembly. 1A33
> is
> > a
> > > > > pretty durable urethane. You can spot strip it OK, but stripping
> ALL
> > > the
> > > > > coating off of an assembly is going to be pretty tough. As Les
> said,
> > > the
> > > > > residues from the stripper can be harmful if not completely
> removed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug Pauls
> > > > > Principal Materials and Process Engineer
> > > > > Rockwell Collins
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:19 AM Chris Thierolf <
> > [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Humiseal 1A33 UR was applied instead of SR. Vendor suggested
> > removing
> > > > > then
> > > > > > re-applying SR conformal coating. If residue is a potential issue
> > as
> > > > you
> > > > > > say then the Silicone will trap the residue on the PCB. This is a
> > > > > problem.
> > > > > > I will have to do 100% electrical testing to hopefully rule out
> > this
> > > > > > condition.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: TechNet <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Bogert, Gerald L
> > > > > (Contractor)
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 9:27 AM
> > > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > > Subject: [EXT] Re: [TN] Humiseal Stripper 1063
> > > > > >
> > > > > > September 14, 2018
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This chemical stripper gel product should only be used as a last
> > > resort
> > > > > > for removing Type UR coating when other methods of removal such
> as
> > > grit
> > > > > > blast or use of heat are not viable. If the gel is not
> completely
> > > > > removed
> > > > > > or neutralized by cleaning process, it will leave conductive
> > residues
> > > > > that
> > > > > > can cause improper circuit card operation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: TechNet <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of lduso -
> > Diamond-MT.com
> > > <
> > > > > > [log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:05 PM
> > > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [TN] Humiseal Stripper 1063
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes and yes. I have used this many times to remove urethane
> coating
> > > > from
> > > > > > customers CCAs. It does work but can be dangerous. Success often
> > > > depends
> > > > > on
> > > > > > the coating, the thickness, and how much of the board is
> uncoated.
> > We
> > > > try
> > > > > > to use the most mild stripper that will get the job done
> > > sufficiently.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is complete removal necessary?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 19:57 Chris Thierolf <
> [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone use this on fully assembled PCBs to remove Urethane
> > > conformal
> > > > > > > coating? Any risk to components?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chris Thierolf
> > > > > > > Principal Engineer, EE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > L3 Power Distribution - SPD Electrical Systems
> > > > > > > 13500 Roosevelt Blvd.
> > > > > > > Philadelphia, PA 19116
> > > > > > > Ph. 215-698-6390
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> > > Steve Gregory
> > > Kimco Design and Manufacturing
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