Thanks Jeff, understood...
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Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 8:47 PM
To: [log in to unmask]; Fred Dark
Subject: RE: [DC] Expedition users..?
Fred,
About 2-3 years ago I switched from PADS Standard to xPCB (what they call Expedition now). I resisted it for years with the thinking that it was more tool than I really needed and would require a lot more overhead. But as part of a corporate consolidation I relented.
Well 3 years down the line and I'm glad that I switched and would do it all over again. While it takes some time getting used to the tool (which is the case with any), the number of things that it can do just automatically that I had to manually do with PADS is a huge time saver. On a complicated board I can save several days with the tool.
It's very strong on the HDI side, Length matching, tuning, and very good for interactive routing. In general the DRC checker is better and often when I send out boards I get few to no issues from the vendors. CES (Constraints system) is pretty decent and is easily set up.
On the documentation side (e.g. fab/assy drawings) go with BlueprintPCB, fablink just doesn't cut it and I don't know many that use it.
In short, if you're moving into boards with HDI, tuning, length matching, dense designs, and want a good interactive router I find it's a good tool. I do recommend doing the mentor xPCB training though on using it, that'll shorten your down time and greatly reduce the stress level and they're pretty good at showing best practice.
I hope this helps.
Best,
-Jeffrey
Jeffrey A. Jenkins
Sr. PCB Staff Designer, CID+
L3 Technologies, CSW - SAN DIEGO
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From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Fred Dark
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 3:35 PM
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Subject: [EXT] Re: [DC] Expedition users..?
Just a more advance software with more approaches (bells and whistles) and schemes to do PCB designs and simulations...
From: Thomas Thornton [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 6:24 PM
To: [log in to unmask]; Fred Dark
Subject: Re: [DC] Expedition users..?
I'm more of Mentor Graphic PowerPCB PADS guy. Is Expedition something special or what or is it just for fast layout for digital type boards?
Thomas Thornton
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From: Fred Dark <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wed, May 2, 2018 2:32 pm
Subject: [DC] Expedition users..?
Hello council..! Hope all are doing well in the land of PCB design..! Just wanted to check on users of "Mentor Graphic Expedition... How do YOU like this tool... As a new user I'm finding that the simple thing and or trivial things are no producible and or don't perform as one would think from a PCB designer's standpoint... one issue, no smart .pdf from the layout side and or "FabLink"..? also rule setting parameters for trace widths , min, target, max... if your trace isn't to one of these specific numbers in these setting you get a warning..? WOW, rather than a range within the min-max, like PADS... What is your experience with this tool..?
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