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That beautiful..!!! that was my approach in transitioning and the things changes on behalf of the EE's in charge... oh well, just a PCB designer...



-----Original Message-----

From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mourad REZK

Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 8:30 PM

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [DC] [External] Re: [DC] Expedition users..?



Hi Thomas,



I agree with Barry. I just did similar to that I used to be an Expedition

user then changed to PADS professional and with my applications I didn't

notice much difference plus it is way cheaper than Expedition and it has

all the bells and whistles I need to do my job.



Regards,

Mourad



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*Mourad Rezk*



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On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Barry Olney <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



> Hi Thomas,

>

> If you are already a PADS user then you can upgrade to PADS Professional

> at a very affordable price. PADS Professional is actually a lite version

> Xpedition and still has most of the power. The only limitation that I have

> seen is that it doesn't support autorouting of matched length signals which

> is not a problem as most designers do these interactively anyway.

>

> Cheers,

> Barry

> ________________________________________________________________

> Barry Olney | iCD

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of

> Decker, Scott UTAS

> Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:00 AM

> To: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: Re: [DC] [External] Re: [DC] Expedition users..?

>

> Hi Thomas,

>    All I will say is, it's for anything... Simple 2 - 4+ layer, high

> speed, digital, analog, RF and even flex. That said, it's just how you want

> to use it. It can be faster than other tools and way over kill for small

> projects, but it is powerful. I always say, with power comes

> responsibility, so use it wisely. :-) One of the bigger questions you need

> to ask is what are you willing to pay to do what you are doing? It is not

> an inexpensive tool set and as such, if you were doing 2 and 4 layer boards

> with a few dozen parts on it, you may not really need the horsepower that

> it has and PADs or other tools may be just fine. If you are doing higher

> end boards, you may want to look more closely, etc. I would suggest if you

> are thinking about it, call the guys at Mentor and have them show you what

> it can and will do. Yes, I know there is marketing involved, but you will

> really see what it will do. Since you are already a Mentor user, you should

> be able to get them at your door pretty quick to do a demo. Again, it may

> not be what you need, but it never hurts to look... ;-)

> Good Luck...

>

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of

> Thomas Thornton

> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 3:24 PM

> To: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: [External] Re: [DC] Expedition users..?

>

> I'm more of Mentor Graphic PowerPCB PADS guy. Is Expedition something

> special or what or is it just for fast layout for digital type boards?

>

>

> Thomas Thornton

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Fred Dark <[log in to unmask]>

> To: DesignerCouncil <[log in to unmask]>

> Sent: Wed, May 2, 2018 2:32 pm

> Subject: [DC] Expedition users..?

>

> Hello council..! Hope all are doing well in the land of PCB design..! Just

> wanted to check on users of "Mentor Graphic Expedition... How do YOU like

> this tool... As a new user I'm finding that the simple thing and or trivial

> things are no producible and or don't perform as one would think from a PCB

> designer's standpoint... one issue, no smart .pdf from the layout side and

> or "FabLink"..? also rule setting parameters for trace widths , min,

> target, max... if your trace isn't to one of these specific numbers in

> these setting you get a warning..? WOW, rather than a range within the

> min-max, like PADS... What is your experience with this tool..?

>

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