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Yuan-chia Joyce Koo <[log in to unmask]>
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be careful wave solder caps - thermal shock sometimes will result  
hair line cracking of cap (ceramic) body... hard to detect by visual  
and open/short test not going to fail either... but performance is  
not good (usually you get field failure after some time...crack  
propagation to critical length that impact performance)... just a  
reminder..  Better method is wave 1st and populate the cap after  
(your designer should know that at preliminary review stage - so you  
have time to change build sequence by design consideration).
jk
On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:13 PM, Wayne Thayer wrote:

> Hi Carl-
>
> That's how SMT started! You don't want the caps on the bottom to be  
> smaller
> than 0603. Larger is preferred, but those will work. You put the  
> parts down
> in "SMT Adhesive", which is a high temperature low modulus  
> material. This
> holds the part in place while it goes through the wave. You want to be
> careful about any parts going longitudinally through the wave  
> because of
> the large thermal transient during travel--design the caps so both  
> ends hit
> the wave at the same time, and you want to go through the wave  
> relatively
> slowly.
>
> But even without that---Why solder 200+ pins instead of wave solder  
> the
> pins and place the caps manually? For that method you would deposit  
> the
> paste with a syringe and place the caps in the paste, then send  
> through
> reflow with the connectors on there. If the connectors can't take  
> the heat,
> then the caps must be reflowed using hot air rework station.
>
> Wayne
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Carl Van Wormer  
> <[log in to unmask]
>> wrote:
>
>> Our new version PC board has a few bottom-side mounted capacitors  
>> that
>> were not on our previous design.  Both designs are low-quantity  
>> builds of
>> about 100 per year.  Our assembly house says they can’t run the  
>> board
>> through their solder wave because of these parts and is planning  
>> to charge
>> a significant fee to hand-solder the 200+ pins for the connectors.  I
>> thought there was some sort of mask that could be placed over the  
>> bottom
>> side parts, like the pink stuff they add to avoid filling the  
>> plated holes
>> for mounting screws.  Are there any good methods that I should  
>> research to
>> help them run our boards through the solder wave?
>>
>> Also, I tried to find the TechNet archive to search for answers,  
>> but I was
>> unable to use the search function.  Is there a help file on  
>> searching the
>> TechNet archive?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> ​​​​​
>>
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