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Joyce,
  Thanks for the link, that was great! It answered many questions and made more too... :-) (Side note, I couldn't get that link to work, but I just put in the document name in Google and it came right up.) Enjoy!
Later...

Scott Decker – Staff Engineer, PCB Design Services CID+ – Electronic Systems Center
UTC AEROSPACE SYSTEMS
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-----Original Message-----
From: Yuan-chia Joyce Koo [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:46 AM
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>; Decker, Scott UTAS <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: [External] Re: [TN] Non Functioning pads

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.dfrsolutions.com_hubfs_DfR-5FSolutions-5FWebsite_Resources-2D&d=DwIF-g&c=ilBQI1lupc9Y65XwNblLtw&r=Z5GKU9L_wgbp5uvPzUdN9HWtU4lRZiIaLoTaEwcy40w&m=CL4to_9kQ9VA-IpwSjgQlMsVVG1zhifwy71WAcrv1VU&s=Rsk0T9R4cNnpsMNYtaOMrBxIrY-aid3yP9z1j_q6Wbk&e=
Archived/White-Papers/Reliability/Non-Functional-Pads-Should-they-
Stay-or-Should-they-Go.pdf

On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Decker, Scott UTAS wrote:

> I agree with Richard. I was a firm believer in keeping them to protect 
> the via barrels from cracking, so no  way was I going to do it. Then 
> there was a study done many years ago, (I don't remember who did it) 
> that showed that only for very thick boards, like .120"
> or more, was there any benefit to leaving them in. That benefit was 
> very small and it was not as much as you get from the Fabricator and 
> such, for the extra space you got... That said, we pull them on all of 
> our boards and we do class 3's all the time. One additional thing I 
> just thought of. In the past I used a lot, (ok almost exclusively 
> polyimide boards) and I believe that was where the benefit was a good 
> one, but I don't remember now for sure since we don't use Polyimide 
> here. :-]
>
>
> Scott Decker – Staff Engineer, PCB Design Services CID+ – Electronic 
> Systems Center UTC AEROSPACE SYSTEMS
> 3445 S. 5th Street, Suite 170, Phoenix, AZ 85040 U.S.A.
> Tel: 602 308 5957  FAX: 602 243 2347
> KE7MWT  AKA:PadMasterson
> [log in to unmask]   www.utcaerospacesystems.com
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:19 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [External] Re: [TN] Non Functioning pads
>
> I don't see why not, unless they are used for capacitance or antennae.
> If they are NOT used for those purposes, then they should be removed 
> for the same reason.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Larry
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 11:12 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] Non Functioning pads
>
> Is there any reason I cannot remove non functioning pads on the inner 
> layers for an Class 3 PCB?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Larry

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