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Bob Wettermann <[log in to unmask]>
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My vote because this is what we have done for small Proto builds is to leave the module off, build and wash w water soluble flux then install the RF module using the no-clean?

Bob Wettermann
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> On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Tom Brendlinger <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> I have heard many times that in high humidity environments with very small
> amounts of condensing humidity, no clean flux can become re-activated. This
> paper discusses some options:
> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11664-014-3609-0
> 
> In my opinion, reach out to the part manufacturer and see if you can
> perform cleaning in a particular way to not risk having issues.
> 
> Tom
> 
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Robert Kondner <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> 
>> I would go for wash and bake but I worry that washing will "Wash Crud Into"
>> the shielded areas and the rinse will not rinse it out.
>> 
>> Are your concerns about no clean flux in a marine environment really
>> justified or is it hog wash from somewhere?
>> 
>> Bob K.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Graham Collins
>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2017 10:09 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [TN] board wash / non-washable modules - the dilemma
>> 
>> Hello Technet!
>> 
>> Wondering what other people are doing with this dilemma.
>> 
>> We have had several customers design in pre-built RF modules on their
>> boards.  I totally get why, it is a pre-built, FCC approved, easy solution
>> -
>> the fastest way to get a good Wi-Fi or bluetooth solution.
>> 
>> Where things go off the rails for me are where this is used in a high
>> humidity application (e.g. a marine setting).  We strongly prefer to wash
>> boards, we can build no-clean if needed but I'd prefer not to for an on the
>> water use.  But the part a customer has designed in specifically says not
>> to
>> wash it (it has an EMI shield, so they are properly concerned with water
>> entrapment).
>> 
>> So - would you:
>> 
>> - build it no-clean?
>> - leave the part off, build and wash as usual, install RF module later
>> using no-clean?
>> - wash it (and maybe bake it to dry it out)?
>> - ????
>> 
>> --
>> regards,
>> 
>> Graham Collins
>> Senior Process Engineer
>> Sunsel Systems
>> (902) 444-7867
>> 

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