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Steve,
I forgot to ask, what type of flux are you using? I remember discussing in the IPC J-002 committee that some no-clean fluxes are better than others for soldering application with a palladium finish. I wonder if that is in play here?  I expect Dave Hillman to have more to say about this.
Bev

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Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 11:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] EXTERNAL: RE: [TN] Odd Finish Soldering

Bev:

    Yes, the end of the copper winding is embedded in the bottom termination and does not appear to be covered by the finish. It actually looks like the copper wire has been compressed to produce a more flattened surface. I suspect oxidation of this wire is contributing to our problem, but I've also read (back from 2008) that this finish will dissolve into solder causing non-optimized soldering angles which can cause premature failure during shock and vibe testing. I'm trying to determine if this theory still holds true today. Thanks again. 

Regards,
Steve Vargas

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bev Christian [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 11:04 AM
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Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [TN] Odd Finish Soldering

Steve,
Is the problem the finish or does the inductor have the end of the copper winding embedded in the bottom termination finish but it is not totally covered by that finish?  If so, then the oxidized copper wiring is your problem, not the termination finish.  I have run into this before. Why the manufacturers insist on terminating the wire on the bottom rather than the top is beyond me.

Bev

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Vargas, Stephen M
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:38 AM
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Subject: [TN] Odd Finish Soldering

Good morning:

      We've experienced some soldering difficulties with small 0402 inductors using a silver palladium platinum glass plating. Our application is a 63/37 process and we find that these parts shift randomly through our reflow oven and the overall soldering is less than optimum. The part is available in a more robust plating, but the cost impact is absurd. I'm wondering if others have run into similar problems with this finish and why the difficulty in soldering these parts. Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Steve Vargas

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