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Well, then it makes it even more uncertain as the component (joints) most probably will behave differently on a real assembly. 

And again, you don't know what is going inside the joints.

Regards,

Vladimir

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From: Ioan Tempea
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 13:02
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Subject: Re: [TN] Gold embrittlement

Hi Vlad,

I must make the statement that we're not talking about any product here. We've simply tried to see if components with thick Au plating could be qualifiable and to my surprise nothing seems to tell me we would waste money starting a full blown qualification and I would like to know why.
Sections have been done, that's how I know there's so much Au in the joints.

Thanks,

Ioan

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Objet : Re: [TN] Gold embrittlement

Hi Ioan,

Au and Sn form intermetallic platelets and cracking goes at their interface with the matrix.

‎The fact that your product did pass the test doesn't mean there were no cracking in solder and the product will last a as long as it supposed to in field (it will depend on how good a reliability model was).

I'd definitely suggest you to section ‎joints after the test.

Regards,

Vladimir

SENTEC

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From: Ioan Tempea
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 12:02
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Subject: [TN] Gold embrittlement

Dear Technos,

I have SnPb37 joints with 4-8% Au that did not fail thermal cycling, no cracks, pass electrical tests like a charm. This kinda contradicts J-STD-001 and common knowledge, so I would appreciate some insider info regarding Au embrittlement, to help me figure this one out.

I know one could write volumes on this, but I'm sure the questions below can be answered in a brief manner.


* How did Au embrittlement end up being a reliability issue? Real catastrophic failures?

* What is the effect on the long term reliability of solder joints?

* What screening method creates catastrophic failure of embrittled joints (mechanical shock, thermal cycling, vibration, etc.)?

* It looks like the embrittlement process goes on as long as there's Au to combine with Sn. What is the speed of this reaction? Otherwise said, how long does it take for a joint with high Au content to become brittle?

* Has anybody screen for embrittlement? Or, anyone tried to maximise embrittlement (e.g. 100 hours @ 150 C) and then screened the hardware?

* Anything else I should know?

Thanks,

Ioan Tempea, P. Eng.
Manufacturing Engineer, Satellite Systems

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