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Hello Steve,



I am in Turkey (Turkey is country☺) I am reading your e mails now. Your ladies are very crazy or hardworking ☺



Our capacitor’s document like attachment. Firstly we applied solder paste (Amtech nws-4200 type-3) to pads then reflowed. I will apply your suggestion that “everything was done by hand except for the cap on the very bottom, it was machine placed.”



For Design for manufacturability (DFM), is it right height of component? I have not a dfm handbook. Anybody please send me a link for download the DFM handbook.





Selim



From: Steve Gregory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 8:20 PM

To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Avni Selim Özçukurlu

Subject: Re: [TN] smd component height



Hello Avini,

Five capacitors?! Wow, that's quite a stack! I worked with some ladies in the past where we did quad stacks and that was pretty tough, especially since they were 0402's. What size caps are you stacking? Do you dispense any solder paste on the terminations?

With the stacks that were done in the photo below we had to do it in two stages, we did the first layer of two capacitors and reflowed the board, then did the second layer of two capacitors and reflowed things one more time:



http://stevezeva.homestead.com/files/Quad_Stack.JPG

Yes, these are 0402's and everything was done by hand except for the cap on the very bottom, it was machine placed. Then paste was dispensed by hand on each cap termination and then the stacked cap was hand placed. I don't know what we paid those ladies, but it wasn't enough...

Steve



On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Avni Selim Özçukurlu <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

Hello All,



I have a question about smd assembly. In the attachment, there are five capacitors that mounted like POP. It's height is 10mm. Is there any constraint about height of smd components in the IPC-A-610 or any IPC.



We have a trouble about Reflow process for 10mm-component. Solder is not run towards to top and it happens cold solder.





A.Selim ÖZÇUKURLU

Aselsan MGEO - CCA Production and Test Engineer





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gonderilmediyse lutfen gondericiyi bilgilendirip mesaji siliniz. 

Firmamiza gelen ve giden mesajlar virus taramasindan gecirilmekte, 

guvenlik nedeni ile kontrol edilerek saklanmaktadir. Mesajdaki 

gorusler ve bakis acisi gondericiye ait olup Aselsan A.S. resmi 

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