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Hello Odin - the FEQAB intended no disrespect to our esteemed colleague
Doug Pauls, only that FEQAB is not responsible for record accounting
outside its walls. The FEQAB records clearly show that the elements Doug
mentioned had been covered in a previous Element Quiz during Round 2 in
contradiction to his record search.  Secondly, FEQAB pointed out that Ce is
obtained from the ore bastnasite - we didn't make up the name and any
association of the name in any other context was not made.

Hillman, on the other hand, is clearly looking to discredit Doug as a
ransom for a Diet Coke which in entirely another story. And Doug did win
one week during the Element Quiz Round 2 (Week 75)  which should have made
him happy and demonstrates FEQAB isn't completely biased against him.

Dave

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Stadem, Richard D. <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> This dispute has been brought to my attention from my esteemed colleagues
> throughout the Industry.
> They have objected to the snide treatment of the esteemed Dr. Pauls. In
> this published opinion FEQAB states that they: “are not responsible for
> incomplete TechNet archives or your ability to search records”.
> This implication that Dr. Pauls is incapable of searching the archives
> himself, or that there are missing Technet archives displays a highly
> arrogant attitude by the FEQAB.
> In addition, the statement that cerium comes mainly from “aeschenite ores,
> found predominantly in Norway and the Ural Mountains of Russia” and that
> they are “aeschenite Bastnas” is an insult to all Norwegians and Russians.
> This kind of distemperate name-calling and arrogant disregard to the
> opinions of the highly esteemed Dr. Pauls cannot be tolerated within the
> industry.
> I ask that you refrain from publishing any more of these types of slanted
> justifications. These names hurt those of us who are treated in this
> manner, and it does not make the FEQAB look very good itself.
> On behalf of Dr. Pauls, we all know that the Table of Elements are just
> that, naturally occurring substances in nature. To take these naturally
> occurring substances and manipulate them to become something that is NOT a
> naturally-occurring substance like you have done in this instance, where
> the cerium is heated to produce an oxide, and then processed to create
> partically uniform Bastnasized nanomolecular structures, is not really
> cerium but some other unclassified material. So in this case, Dr. Pauls was
> correct; his answer more closely covers all of the clues to the question
> than the answer you proposed.
>
> Respectfully,
> Odin
>
> From: Douglas Pauls [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 9:19 AM
> To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Stadem, Richard D.
> Subject: Re: [TN] Element Quiz Answer
>
> Ohhh, I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that the FEQAB has ruled against
> me.  Shocked.....
>
>
> Doug Pauls
> Principal Materials and Process Engineer
> Rockwell Collins
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:26 AM, Stadem, Richard D. <
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> Doug,
> Don't let the Bastnas get you down. We fully support you. You have friends.
> Odin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf
> Of David Hillman
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 8:01 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [TN] Element Quiz Answer
>
> Hello Doug - FEQAB has reviewed your appeal and has published this
> response:
>
> 1.  In a business trip earlier this year, I laboriously went through the
> Technet Archives.  There was evidence of a clear answer in Round 2 for all
> but 4 elements: Ruthenium, Hafnium, Cerium, and Neodymium.
>
> *** FEQAB is not responsible for incomplete TechNet archives or your
> ability to search records. Hf was covered on 10/24/14, Cerium was covered
> on 3/1/15, Nd was covered on 9/15 and Ru was the last element in the Quiz
> Round 2 on 2/19/16.
>
> 2.  As I stated, cerium oxide nanoparticles are being used to treat
> glaucoma.
>
> *** That is correct but a response of Ce did not satisfy all of the clues
> provided.
>
> 3.  Cerium comes from aeschenite ore, found predominantly in Norway and
> the Ural Mountains of Russia.
>
> *** That is correct but a response of Ce did not satisfy all of the clues
> provided. Additionally, the primary ores for Ce are monazite an bastnasite.
>
> FEQAB thanks you for your participation in the Element Quiz and hopes you
> will continue to participate in Round 3.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Douglas Pauls <
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> wrote:
>
> > I am appealing this ruling to the FEQAB, for the following very good
> > reasons.
> >
> > 1.  In a business trip earlier this year, I laboriously went through
> > the Technet Archives.  There was evidence of a clear answer in Round 2
> > for all but 4 elements: Ruthenium, Hafnium, Cerium, and Neodymium.
> >
> > 2.  As I stated, cerium oxide nanoparticles are being used to treat
> > glaucoma.
> >
> > 3.  Cerium comes from aeschenite ore, found predominantly in Norway
> > and the Ural Mountains of Russia.
> >
> > Ha, gotcha now Hillman.  I foresee the FEQAB finally ruling in my favor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Doug Pauls
> > Principal Materials and Process Engineer Rockwell Collins
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 1:07 PM, David Hillman <
> > [log in to unmask]<mailto:
> [log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> >> Here is the Element Quiz Answer
> >> > The Question:
> >> > This is the only element we haven't covered in the second round.
> >> > What
> >> element is it?
> >>
> >> The Answer:
> >> The element is Ruthenium (Ru)! Ruthenium's name is derived from the
> >> Latin word "Ruthenia" meaning "Russia" where it is found in the Ural
> Mountains.
> >> Ru is rare so it has few commercial applications. Ruthenium is used
> >> in some medical instrumentation due to its hardness and resistance to
> >> corrosion.
> >> It
> >> also finds application as a drug to treat eye diseases.
> >>
> >> > The winner of the quiz is Mark Kostinovsky, Schlumberger and he
> >> > will
> >> get the services
> >> of Clumpy and Kloumpios for the week.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ok, Technet - do we do a Periodic Table of Element Quiz Round 3?
> >>
> >> >
> >> > So far Clumpy and Kloumpios have done the following:
> >> >
> >> > Past Quiz winners/tasks:
> >> > Week 1 Dick Krug,  Spartan Complex Systems Week 2 Laura Turbini,
> >> > IRC Week 3 James Head, Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited Week 3
> >> > Pat Goodyear, PGE Week 4 Joe Russeau, Precision Analysts Laboratory
> >> > Week 5 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security Week 6 Steve
> >> > Gregory Week 7 Phil Kinner Week 8 Brian Ellis Week 9 James
> >> > Head,Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited Week 10 Leland Woodall,
> >> > CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 11 Keith Calhoun, Sopark Corp
> >> > Week 12 Matthias Mansfeld, Mansfeld-Elektronik Week 13 Leland
> >> > Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 14 Brian Ellis
> >> > Week 15 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security Week 16
> >> > Steve Gregory Week 17 Phil Kinner Week 18 Ian Braddock, MBDA
> >> > Systems Week 19 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 20 Denny Fritz, SAIC
> >> > Week 21 Amol Kane
> >> > Week 21 Dewey Whittaker, Honeywell
> >> > Week 21 David Bealer, Watch Fire Sign Week 22 Phil Kinner Week 23
> >> > Guy Ramsey, RD Circuits Week 24 Mark Kostinovsky, Schlumberger Week
> >> > 25 Keith Calhoun, SoparkCorp Week 26 Paul Reid, PWB Interconnect
> >> > Solutions Inc Week 27 Greg Munie, IPC Week 28 Steve Gregory Week 29
> >> > Gus Trakas, Viasystems Week 29 Steve Creswick Week 30 Robert
> >> > Welch,Moog Component Group Week 31 Heidi Havelka, Interplex Sunbelt
> >> > Week 32 Raye Rivera, Canoga Perkins Week 33 Steve Creswick Week 34
> >> > Dewey Whittaker, Honeywell Week 35 Don Vischulis Week 36 Greg
> >> > Munie, IPC Week 37 Larry Dzaugis Week 37 Bonus Question Steve
> >> > Mikell Week 38 Curt McNamara, Logic PD Week 38 Bonus Question Dewey
> >> > Whittaker, Honeywell Week 39 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 40 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 40 Ron Feyereisen, Sigmatron Int.
> >> > Week 41 Steve Gregory
> >> > Week 42 Steve Mikell
> >> > Week 43 Mark Kostinovsky, Schlumberger Week 44 Leland Woodall,
> >> > CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 44 Eddie Hofer, Rockwell Collins Week 45 Leland Woodall,
> >> > CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 46 Joe Russeau, Precision Analysts Laboratory Week 47 Phil
> >> > Bavaro,L-3 Communications Week 48 Brian Ellis Week 49 Leland
> >> > Woodall,CSTech Week 49 Drew Meyer, Benchmark Electronics Week 50
> >> > Greg Munie, IPC Week 51 Karen Tellefsen.
> >> > Week 52 Greg Munie, IPC
> >> > Week 53 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 54 Phil Bavaro, L-3 Com.
> >> > Week 55 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc. deferred to Richard Stadem, GD,
> >> > Week 56 Carl Van Wormer, Cipher Engineering LLC Week 57 Leland
> >> > Woodall, CSTech Inc Week 58 Leland Woodall, CSTech, Inc.
> >> > Week 58 Bonus Question Robert Wolfe Week 59 Greg Munie, IPC Week 60
> >> > Graham Collins, Sunsel Systems Week 61 James Head, Crowcon
> >> > Detection Instruments Limited Week 62 Leland Woodall Week 62 Brien
> >> > Bush, Cirtronics Week 63 Pat Goodyear, PGE Week 64 Ed Popielarski
> >> > Week 65 Jim West, N.S. International Week 66 Brian Ellis Week 67
> >> > Ravinder Ajmani, HGST Week 68 Robert Wolfe Week 69 Joe Russeau,
> >> > PAL.
> >> > Week 69 Leland Woodall, Keihin North America Week 70 Jim West, N.S.
> >> > International Week 71 Steve Gregory Week 72 Bhanu Sood, CALCE Week
> >> > 72 Ed Popielarsk Week 72 Robert Welch, Moog Component Group Week 73
> >> > Torsten Hagge, Kristronics GmbH Week 74 Greg Munie, IPC Week 75
> >> > Doug Pauls, Rockwell Collins Week 76 Graham Collins, Sunsel Systems
> >> > Week 77 Robert Kondner, Index Designs Week 77 Bonus Brien Bush,
> >> > Cirtronics Week 78 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 79 Denny Fritz, SAIC
> >> > Week 80 Brian Ellis
> >> > Week 81 Mordechai Kirshenbaum
> >> > Week 81 Jim West, N.S. International Week 82 Leland Woodall, CSTech
> >> > Inc Week 82 Robert Welch, Moog Components Group Week 83 James Head,
> >> > Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited Week 84 Mike Fenner Week 85
> >> > Steve Gregory Week 86 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and
> >> > Security Week 87 Matthias Mansfeld, Mansfeld-Elektronik Week 88
> >> > Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 89 Avni Selim Ozcukurlu, Aselsan Inc.
> >> > Week 90 Pat Goodyear, PGE
> >> > Week 91 Mordechai Kirshenbaum
> >> > Week 92 Greg Munie, IPC
> >> > Week 93 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 93 Mike Fenner
> >> > Week 94 John Maxwell
> >> > Week 95 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 95 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security Week 96 Tom
> >> > Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security Week 96 bonus Leland
> >> > Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> >> > Week 97 Dick Krug, Spartan Brooksville LLC Week 98 Juliano Ribeiro,
> >> > DATACOM Week 99 Torsten Hagge, KRISTRONICS GmbH Week 100 Denny
> >> > Fritz, SAIC Week 101 Mark Kostinovsky, Schlumberger Week 102 Tom
> >> > Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security
> >>    Week 102 Robert Welch, Moog Components Group
> >> > Week 102 Bonus Question David Bealer, Watch Fire Sign
> >>    Week 103 Torsten Hagge, KRISTRONICS GmbH
> >> > Week 103 Joe Russeau, PAL
> >> > Week 104 Todd MacFadden
> >>    Week 105 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc
> >> > Week 106 Greg Munie, IPC
> >> > Week 106 Lamar Young, SCS Inc.
> >> > Week 106 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security Week 107
> >> > Larry Dzaugis Week 108 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc Week 109 Brien
> >> > Bush, Cirtronics Week 110 Andy Giamis Week 110 Torsten Hagge,
> >> > Kristronics, GmbH Week 111 Doug Pauls, Rockwell Collins Week 112
> >> > Lamar Young, SCS Inc Week 113 Tan Geok Ang
> >>
> >>
> >> Week 114 > Week 43 Mark Kostinovsky, Schlumberger -assisted with ????
> >>
> >> > Everyone have a safe week!
> >> >
> >> > Dave Hillman
> >> > Rockwell Collins
> >> > [log in to unmask]<mailto:
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> >> > Data Credit Note: the information in the Element Quizzes is taken
> >> > from several published sources including The History and Use of Our
> >> > Earth's Chemical Elements by R. Krebs and Nature's Building Blocks by
> J. Emsley.
> >>
> >>
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