CAF is hard to detect using X-ray. cross section is also a hit and
missing game. Unless you have thermal imaging data.
not easy.
jk
On Apr 11, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Stadem, Richard D. wrote:
> If you have determined that the via in the picture is the culprit,
> or is very likely the issue, I would start by having a set of
> really good X-rays performed with a machine such as an Yxlon.
> Iff those X-rays prove the internal short condition, then you have
> justification for microsectional analysis by a testing house that
> has experience in this.
> Concurrently, electrical analysis using PWB layer artwork should be
> able to determine if there is +12V and -12V both in the same area
> with close approximation to each other. I am assuming the via in
> the picture is either one or the other.
> If that is the case, it may be a situation of CAF internal to the
> PWB, which is the only scenario that I can see that would develop
> over time. But that is speculation at this point.
> To answer your question, the more samples you can provide for the
> initial X-ray analysis, the better. Two may be enough, but perhaps
> 5 or 6 will provide more data; at least enough to justify
> sacrificing one for sectioning. Try to find one that displays gross
> shorting.
> An initial X-ray survey should cost less, perhaps 2-3K.
> If the X-Rays provide justification, then microsectioning would go
> to another $3K, depending on the number of cuts/mounts required.
> A good analysis house can give you a good estimate if you were to
> forward the pictures to them and explain what you are experiencing.
> They may have other ideas for confirming that the via is the
> culprit, and in determining the cause. Be prepared to provide the
> layer artwork. I would get approval from the customer first; there
> may be security or ITAR concerns.
> And I am assuming the large probe mark in the via is from
> troubleshooting to locate the short. The problem is, the short
> could be anywhere. How was it determined that that particular via
> is the source?
> dean
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> Subject: [TN] Recommendations for Failure Analysis / Root Cause of
> PCBA Failure...
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> Good Morning All,
>
> We have an assembly that we build here for a customer that we built
> for some time, over 2,000 assemblies. There have been some failures
> that our customer has had field returns with that are beginning to
> escalate. There have been 12 field failures that we know of. The
> failures are avionic assemblies that have been in the field ranging
> from 111 days to 472 days.
> The actual failures are internal +12V to -12V shorts and we need to
> know why. I have two failed assemblies here. Here are a couple of
> external photos of a via that shows the short:
>
> http://stevezeva.homestead.com/Internal_Short.jpg
>
> http://stevezeva.homestead.com/Internal_Short_Close.jpg
>
> So my question is, can a lab take these boards and examine them to
> determine what the root cause actually is from the two assemblies
> that I have, or does there need to be more samples? What is the
> range we should expect to pay for this type of analysis?
>
> We're trying to work with our PCB vendor on this issue, but I have
> also been asked by my boss to pursue this with a third party.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Steve
>
>
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