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I stick with 25 mils unless it's a thick board with V-scores - then I follow instruction from the board house. 

We have some designs that get within 5 mils on outer layers. This is mostly a carry-over from legacy boards that I will typically change on revision unless it's not allowed (usually due to concerns about the need to re-qualify). 

I have a question for those of you who pull back the power planes: are you also adding shielding vias around the edge of the board? 

This reminded me of an old rule of thumb called the 20H rule where designers would pull back power planes 20X the distance between it and the nearest GND plane. The 1st link below is to a paper that showed the application of this rule actually increases radiation for 2 plane structures and has no significant impact on 3 plane structures. The 2nd link is to a paper that seems to dispute the methodology used in the first paper and shows the 20H rule is effective in reducing radiation. To be honest the majority of what is presented in the papers is over my head; I pretty much just read the intro and the conclusion. Anyone have an idea who is right? My guess is it's a big "it depends".

On new designs if space permits it I put a GND (or chassis GND) ring around the edge of the board on each layer and stitch with vias spaced at no greater than 1/8th wavelength of the highest frequency on the board (usually aim for 1/20th). 

Links (can also be found quickly by googling "20H rule"):
http://www.sigrity.com/papers/epep2000/epep_20h.pdf

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwje0fXa4pfKAhUDeD4KHdJqBbkQFggzMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpiers.org%2Fpiersonline%2Fdownload.php%3Ffile%3DMDYwOTA2MDAxNjQzfFZvbDNObzdQYWdlMTA5N3RvMTEwMS5wZGY%3D&usg=AFQjCNHke1JPkVD_TePQMe7xZGjO_uuZ2w


Adam Domoe
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Cincinnati Electronics
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From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brooks, William
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Subject: [DC] pull back clearance on internal planes

What do you recommend for clearance from the edge of an internal plane to the board edge? 



William Brooks, CID+
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