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Thank you Mike

---- On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 05:03:38 -0800 Mike Fenner  wrote ---- 
>I have seen something similar before with Sn/Ag solders and also high leads, 
>both in die attach applications with longish reflow cycles. 
>Whether that's relevant or coincidence couldn't say. Thought it could beat 
>the time. 
>The Sn one may be the same as here. Then the analysis reported only Sn, but 
>the reporter may have dismissed any O (and C and H etc) as background from 
>laminate. I'm not sure the cause was ever identified but am sure it was a 
>long time ago. I will have to go back through some archived stuff and hope I 
>can find something. 
> 
>-- 
>Regards 
> 
>Mike 
> 
>-----Original Message----- 
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Vladimir Igoshev 
>Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:53 AM 
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>Subject: Re: [TN] What else it can be 
> 
>It varies 
> 
>---- On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 16:44:26 -0800 Yuan-chia Joyce Koo wrote ---- 
>>where is the origin of the pwa? (country of origin). 
>>On Dec 9, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Vladimir Igoshev wrote: 
>> 
>>> Hi Dave, 
>>> 
>>> Not really. It doesn't "burn" or "curl" much under the beam, so 
>>> it's solid. 
>>> 
>>> Vladimir 
>>> 
>>> ---- On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 15:51:29 -0800 David 
>>> Hillman<[log in to unmask]> wrote ---- 
>>>> Thank you Steve! 
>>>> 
>>>> Vlad - does the substance slightly charge in the SEM? 
>>>> 
>>>> Dave 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Steve Gregory <[log in to unmask]> 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Dave and Vlad, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have it up here: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://stevezeva.homestead.com/What_else_it_can_be.pdf 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 4:34 PM, David Hillman < 
>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> HI Vlad - we can't open Dropbox here due to firewall 
>>>>>> restrictions so can 
>>>>>> you have Steve G. post the pictures? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dave Hillman 
>>>>>> Rockwell Collins 
>>>>>> [log in to unmask] 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Vladimir Igoshev < 
>>>>>> [log in to unmask] 
>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> HI everyone, 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm attaching a link to a file showing something I'd appreciate 
>>>>>>> your 
>>>>>>> thoughts on. It's a cross-section of a QFN on an IAg board; 
>>>>>>> Pb-free/no-clean process. As you can see from the EDS spectrum, 
>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>> greyish stuff between pins has pretty much only Sn and O in its 
>>>>>> elemental 
>>>>>>> composition. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know there is burn flux residue around solder joints but that 
>>>>>>> stuff 
>>>>>>> doesn't have any C in it. The question I have is what is it. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I spoke to Bev and both of us are still puzzled. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here is the link: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wbj62vqjyhvj2y/What%20else%20it%20can% 
>>>>>> 20be.pdf?dl=0 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you very much in advance. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards, 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Vladimir 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> SENTEC 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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