As an occasional student of my "Fritz" German roots, I have several comments.  
 
1. The borders of Hesse have moved around a lot, depending on who won what war.  
2. I regard Hesse as EAST of the Rhine river, not really north.  If you have been to Frankfurt, you have been to Hesse.   
3. The Romans did pretty well WEST of the Rhine River, but suffered badly when they met the Roman educated Arminius leading the Germans - quote from Wikipedia - 
The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest described as clades Variana (the Varian disaster) by Roman historians, took place in the Teutoburg Forest in 9 CE, when an alliance of Germanic tribes ambushed and decisively destroyed three Roman legions and their auxiliaries, led by Publius Quinctilius Varus. The anti-Roman alliance was led by Arminius, who had acquired Roman citizenship and received a Roman military education, thus enabling him to personally deceive the Roman commander and foresee the Roman army's tactical responses.
Despite several successful campaigns and raids by the Roman army in the years after the battle, they never again attempted to conquer Germanian territory east of the Rhine River. The Germanic victory against the Roman legions in the Teutoburg forest had far-reaching effects on the subsequent history of both the ancient Germanic peoples and on the Roman Empire. Modern historians have regarded Arminius' victory as "Rome's greatest defeat"[4] and one of the most decisive battles in history.[5][6][7][8][9][10]
4. Both Hillman (more commonly Hillmann) and Pauls have German family roots.  I find that while there are 1807 families of Pauls (Paulus, etc) in Germany today, there are 2304 Hillmanns (or Heilmanns).  Both families have some residents of Hesse, but their predominant location today is more downriver near the Rhine, toward Belgium or Holland. .  Either Hillman, Pauls, or both, could be related to   Frau Verargert.    

 
 
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From: David Hillman <[log in to unmask]>
To: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Fri, Sep 25, 2015 2:06 pm
Subject: Re: [TN] Element Quiz Answer


Hi Joe - the EQAB disqualification was that the "proof" that the
Romans
actually occupied the modern day region of Hesse Germany is a point
of
dispute. Research by EQAB revealed that the northern edge of the
Roman
occupation of Germany was the Rhine river, the province of Hesse
is
considerably farther North of the river. Heaven forbid if the EQAB
would
intentionally disqualify Doug's answer.

Dave

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015
at 12:44 PM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> On behalf
of Doug, I have to cry foul.  Normally I would stay out of it,
> but the
disqualification this week just seems weird, even for a Friday.
>
> You state
as the basis for the EQAB disqualification that "The EQAB review
> of the Roman
conquest/occupation of Germania revealed that it was primarily
> south of the
Rhine river with only controversial evidence of any occupation
> in the modern
province of Hesse."  This seems to support Doug's comment
> about "don't go
here", which might explain why the evidence for the Roman
> occupation of Hesse
is controversial.  Romans didn't like to go there.
>
> Doug stated,  "In Roman
times, the Romans found the residents of Hesse to
> be so disagreeable they
termed them “inritatior hominis”, and the town on
> Roman maps simply labelled
as Inritatior with a notation “Etnon egredieris
> inde huc” (don’t go
here)."
>
> While Doug might have legitimately been disqualified for the
Rockwell
> timestamp thingy, disqualifying the man by supporting his answer
just seems
> to me like a personal disqualification rather than a fact
disqualification.
> It might just be me though, it is Friday after all.
>
>
Regards,
>
> Joe Russeau
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: David
Hillman
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 12:52 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
Subject: [TN] Element Quiz Answer
>
> Here is the Element Quiz Answer:
>
>
The Question:
> The name of this element is derived from the Latin name of the
German
> town/province of Hesse. Which element is being described?
>
> The
Answer:
> The element is Hassium (Hs). The element name is derived from the
Latin
> "Hassias" for the province of Hesse in Germany. The Hs-277 isotope has
a
> half life of 12 minutes and is produced by slamming Fe-58 into
Pb-209.
>
> The winner of the weekly element quiz is Juliano Ribeiro, DATACOM
and will
> get the services of Clumpy and Kloumpios for the week. Juliano's
response
> beat Leland's response by only a couple of seconds per the Rockwell
Collins
> firewall time stamp so honorable mention goes to Leland too. Juliano
- let
> me where in Brazil you are located so the Clumpy and Kloumpios can
begin
> their trip.
>
> The EQAB did review Doug's submission of "Grouchium"
and unfortunately have
> disqualified his answer (yes, I know that everyone is
stunned by that
> result). The EQAB review of the Roman conquest/occupation of
Germania
> revealed that it was primarily south of the Rhine river with only
>
controversial evidence of any occupation in the modern province of Hesse.
>
>
Note that next week there will be no Elemental Quiz as the SMTAI/IPC
>
conference/meetings are in Chicago where the boys will be assisting Dave &
>
Doug after traveling to Juliano's facility for a task.
>
>
> So far Clumpy
and Kloumpios have done the following:
>
> Past Quiz winners/tasks:
> Week 1
Dick Krug,  Spartan Complex Systems
> Week 2 Laura Turbini, IRC
> Week 3 James
Head, Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited
> Week 3 Pat Goodyear, PGE
> Week
4 Joe Russeau, Precision Analysts Laboratory
> Week 5 Tom Carroll, Boeing
Defense, Space and Security
> Week 6 Steve Gregory
> Week 7 Phil Kinner
>
Week 8 Brian Ellis
> Week 9 James Head,Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited
>
Week 10 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 11 Keith Calhoun, Sopark Corp
>
Week 12 Matthias Mansfeld, Mansfeld-Elektronik
> Week 13 Leland Woodall, CSTech
Inc.
> Week 14 Brian Ellis
> Week 15 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and
Security
> Week 16 Steve Gregory
> Week 17 Phil Kinner
> Week 18 Ian
Braddock, MBDA Systems
> Week 19 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 20 Denny
Fritz, SAIC
> Week 21 Amol Kane
> Week 21 Dewey Whittaker, Honeywell
> Week
21 David Bealer, Watch Fire Sign
> Week 22 Phil Kinner
> Week 23 Guy Ramsey,
RD Circuits
> Week 24 Mark Kostinovsky, Schlumberger
> Week 25 Keith Calhoun,
SoparkCorp
> Week 26 Paul Reid, PWB Interconnect Solutions Inc
> Week 27 Greg
Munie, IPC
> Week 28 Steve Gregory
> Week 29 Gus Trakas, Viasystems
> Week 29
Steve Creswick
> Week 30 Robert Welch,Moog Component Group
> Week 31 Heidi
Havelka, Interplex Sunbelt
> Week 32 Raye Rivera, Canoga Perkins
> Week 33
Steve Creswick
> Week 34 Dewey Whittaker, Honeywell
> Week 35 Don Vischulis
>
Week 36 Greg Munie, IPC
> Week 37 Larry Dzaugis
> Week 37 Bonus Question Steve
Mikell
> Week 38 Curt McNamara, Logic PD
> Week 38 Bonus Question Dewey
Whittaker, Honeywell
> Week 39 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 40 Leland
Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 40 Ron Feyereisen, Sigmatron Int.
> Week 41 Steve
Gregory
> Week 42 Steve Mikell
> Week 43 Mark Kostinovsky, Schlumberger
>
Week 44 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 44 Eddie Hofer, Rockwell Collins
>
Week 45 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 46 Joe Russeau, Precision Analysts
Laboratory
> Week 47 Phil Bavaro,L-3 Communications
> Week 48 Brian Ellis
>
Week 49 Leland Woodall,CSTech
> Week 49 Drew Meyer, Benchmark Electronics
>
Week 50 Greg Munie, IPC
> Week 51 Karen Tellefsen.
> Week 52 Greg Munie,
IPC
> Week 53 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 54 Phil Bavaro, L-3 Com.
>
Week 55 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc. deferred to Richard Stadem, GD,
> Week 56
Carl Van Wormer, Cipher Engineering LLC
> Week 57 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc
>
Week 58 Leland Woodall, CSTech, Inc.
> Week 58 Bonus Question Robert Wolfe
>
Week 59 Greg Munie, IPC
> Week 60 Graham Collins, Sunsel Systems
> Week 61
James Head, Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited
> Week 62 Leland Woodall
>
Week 62 Brien Bush, Cirtronics
> Week 63 Pat Goodyear, PGE
> Week 64 Ed
Popielarski
> Week 65 Jim West, N.S. International
> Week 66 Brian Ellis
>
Week 67 Ravinder Ajmani, HGST
> Week 68 Robert Wolfe
> Week 69 Joe Russeau,
PAL.
> Week 69 Leland Woodall, Keihin North America
> Week 70 Jim West, N.S.
International
> Week 71 Steve Gregory
> Week 72 Bhanu Sood, CALCE
> Week 72
Ed Popielarsk
> Week 72 Robert Welch, Moog Component Group
> Week 73 Torsten
Hagge, Kristronics GmbH
> Week 74 Greg Munie, IPC
> Week 75 Doug Pauls,
Rockwell Collins
> Week 76 Graham Collins, Sunsel Systems
> Week 77 Robert
Kondner, Index Designs
> Week 77 Bonus Brien Bush, Cirtronics
> Week 78 Leland
Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 79 Denny Fritz, SAIC
> Week 80 Brian Ellis
> Week
81 Mordechai Kirshenbaum
> Week 81 Jim West, N.S. International
> Week 82
Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc
> Week 82 Robert Welch, Moog Components Group
>
Week 83 James Head, Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited
> Week 84 Mike
Fenner
> Week 85 Steve Gregory
> Week 86 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space
and Security
> Week 87 Matthias Mansfeld, Mansfeld-Elektronik
> Week 88 Leland
Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 89 Avni Selim Ozcukurlu, Aselsan Inc.
> Week 90
Pat Goodyear, PGE
> Week 91 Mordechai Kirshenbaum
> Week 92 Greg Munie, IPC
>
Week 93 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 93 Mike Fenner
> Week 94 John
Maxwell
> Week 95 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 95 Tom Carroll, Boeing
Defense, Space and Security
> Week 96 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and
Security
> Week 96 bonus Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>
> Week 97 Dick Krug,
Spartan Brooksville LLC
> -Clumpy and Kloumpios arrived late Friday night. 
Saturday and Sunday we
> went to an Oktoberfest.  The boys both complained that
the mugs were so
> small.  I tried to tell them it's because the beer gets warm
faster in the
> south. They replied in unison, "Drink faster!"  For being small
in stature
> they can drink a lot.Perhaps because of the beer they weren't good
for much
> work on Monday, but starting Tuesday they worked hard with the end
of
> quarter production push. I don't think they like working this hard. 
Clumpy
> hoped their next assignment would be far away and they would have to
leave
> early today.
>
> Week 98 Juliano Ribeiro, DATACOM
> -assisted with
????
>
>
> Everyone have a safe week.
>
> Dave Hillman
> Rockwell
Collins
> [log in to unmask]
> Data Credit Note: the
information in the Element Quizzes is taken from
> several published sources
including The History and Use of Our Earth's
> Chemical Elements by R. Krebs
and Nature's Building Blocks by J. Emsley.
>
>
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