I am just searching for a data point, guideline, of IMC formation thickness that has been seen throughout the industry by others. Especially with their experience in dealing with such an anomaly and their pitfall. I am aware that each material selection will yield different results. I always ask myself if others are seeing what I see or receiving similar overseas product. How will this anomaly impact product quality.
Victor,
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I have to sound of the caution: even with round robin, you will not get that much of info. (1) size of the parts (CTE mismatch) vs environmental op temp and extreme temp - that including parts thermal dissipation got a lot to do with IMC grow and reliability. (2) I have seen power BGA IMC grow significantly compare to the signal BGA. you also have current enhanced diffusion. (3) rate of temp change place a role for CTE mismatch . (4) rigidity of the board and placement in relation to the design neutral point are also place a role (5) impact/shock that in relation to the parts joint stress ... etc. etc. round robin should be done for the best in the class MFG practice for minimize IMC, but not risk free as Victor want a number he can go back to his customer to say IPC said the thickness below x um is OK. ;-).
my 1 cents.
jk
> David,
>
> Thanks for the vote of confidence. I like to see and review all
> possible ROUND ROBINS DATA when it comes to IMC formation thicknesses.
>
> Victor,
>
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> Hi Vlad - what data do you have that 10 micron thick layer of IMC
> results in the failure of the BGA? There is TONS of subjective
> comments in the published literature but no hard data of failures. As
> a basic materials engineering principle, IMCs are brittle but that
> specific material characteristic seems to be the only reason folks
> make statements that a "thick" IMC is bad. Should we work to keep IMC layers minimized?
> Absolutely but I don't believe, as technologists, we should keep
> propagating the myth about thick IMC layers without having published,
> reviewable data.
>
> Dave Hillman
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> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Vladimir Igoshev <
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>> 10 microns thick layer is a perfect way for a disaster down the road
>> :-).
>>
>> There are no parameters for E-Ni, but the appearance of the interface
>> and a P-enriched layer ‎is important.
>>
>> Vladimir
>>
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>> From: Victor Hernandez
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>> On ENIG surface I don't see much of an increase in the IMC formation
>> thickness. However, on Cu it is a different story. I have measured
>> IMC formation greater than 10 microns. Not sure of the below
>> statement about E-NI parameter. Please explain!!!
>>
>> Victor,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Vladimir Igoshev
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>> The "magic" Number should stay the same 1-3 micron but you'd also
>> have to keep an eye on what happened to the layer of E-Ni underneath.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Vladimir
>>
>> SENTEC
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>> Hi to all,
>>
>>
>>
>> When we reworked the BGA, removed the component of the board and
>> replacement another BGA, what's the intermetallic thickness ideal
>> after the rework?
>>
>>
>>
>> p.s: Our pcb is ENIG finished and the solder is Tin Lead.
>>
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