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Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:25:32 -0600
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Hi Ahne,

1. The batteries quit charging. This is part of the circuit that hooks to a
solar panel to re-charge an onboard battery.
2. Not quite sure about this one. We got sent some pictures and me being
the pessimistic kind of guy that I am disagree with. I've pulled many parts
from random boards and have yet to find even one that hasn't had the belly
pad fully wet with solder. I know that hot air removal could skew things
some, but you would think that I would have found at least one with
insufficient solder...

Steve

Not quite sure how they determined that

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Ahne Oosterhof <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> " It was told to to us that there is less than 50% coverage on the belly
> pad."
>
> 1) What occurred that made the customer look?
> 2) How was this 50% determined/detected by the customer?
>
> Ahne.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:56 PM
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> Subject: [TN] Crude destructive test
>
> Hi All,
>
> So here's the story; we're building a board that has a Linear Technology
> LT3652 12-pin MSOP device on it, and it has a belly or grounding pad on it.
> The board is designed with five 20-mil via's beneath it (bad idea), and
> they are through via's not cap plated or tented. So they start having
> problems with the part. The footprint on the board has the belly aperture
> much larger that the pad on the device itself. I have a 5-mil thick stencil
> because there are 20-mil pitch QFP's on the board, and I print 100% of the
> area of the belly pad on the board (which is .160" X .082"). My reflow
> profile peaked out at 228 C. and I was above reflow for 63/37 for
> 112-seconds. While I did not have a thermocouple on that part, I did have
> it nearby because there are some large D-Packs in the vicinity and I wanted
> to be sure I was getting adequate reflow on those.
>
> So the complaint is that we're getting insufficient solder on the belly
> pad. It was told to to us that there is less than 50% coverage on the belly
> pad. We x-rayed many boards and while we could see that sometimes the vias
> didn't fill, we saw evidence of solder on almost 100% of the area of the
> pad. We could tilt the board and under high magnification see beneath the
> part and tell that solder had wet to the belly pad on the part, but what we
> could not tell was how much it actually covered the pad. We removed parts
> with hot air and could not find one part that did not have solder wet to
> 100% of the pad.
>
> So my boss asked me to take a board and physically pry one off to see what
> it looked like. So I got a heavy exacto blade and slipped it beneath the
> edge of the part and pried. The corner broke and then the top half part
> with all the guts split off, a couple of leads in the corners broke off
> too, but the belly pad stayed on the board. I was able to get the exacto
> blade under a corner of the belly pad and I could slowly peel it away from
> the solder joint, and this is what it looked like:
>
> http://stevezeva.homestead.com/LT3652_Belly_Pad.jpg
>
> So I saw a few small voids (which was not unexpected), but to my untrained
> eye I don't see much wrong. I do wonder a little about me being able to
> peel away the belly pad like that, should I have been able to do that? Or
> does the solder fracture along the intermetallic layer when you apply
> peeling forces like that?
>
> Thanks in advance for any input...
>
> Steve
>
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