I would heartily agree with you.  Laura graduated from Mt. Mercy University
here in Cedar Rapids, and they have public service to others as a
graduation requirement.  Both my boys are Boy Scouts (one Eagle, one near
Eagle) and that organization stresses service to others as well.

But, that is getting a little far afield from what I first asked.


Doug Pauls
Principal Materials and Process Engineer
Rockwell Collins

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Stadem, Richard D. <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I think one of the best programs to have your kids learn not only about
> life, but how to do framing, wiring, plumbing, insulation, painting,
> roofing, etc., and most importantly, how to give of yourself to better
> someone else, is in Homes for Habitat. I will be an old fuddy duddy
> officially next month, and only now have I learned that nothing you do for
> yourself is of any value in how you lived your life, but those things you
> have done to help others. Best of all, they don't have to necessarily learn
> it from you.
> dean
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Upton, Shawn
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:50 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] [NTC] Explaining Benefits
>
> I was always frustrated by my college-track education: a few friends went
> and took building trades, where they built a house (and possibly spent most
> of the day goofing around).  Boy, would household wiring and framing have
> come in nicely...  Yeah I needed to take pre-calc and whatnot, but i always
> felt I had been deprived of some good non-career schooling.
>
> I still have to figure out how to teach my kids this stuff, but it sure
> would be nice if they got the same lessons pounded into their heads
> elsewhere.  At some point I'll be the old fuddy-duddy that they ignore.  If
> we can avoid that stage perhaps I can steer their courses for years to come.
>
> Shawn Upton
> Section Head, Test Engineering
> Sensors Business Unit
> Allegro MicroSystems, LLC
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> 603.626.2429/fax: 603.641.5336
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nutting, Phil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 11:42 AM
> To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Upton, Shawn
> Subject: RE: [TN] [NTC] Explaining Benefits
>
> Any time Fidelity, Blue Cross (health care) or any other financial
> professional comes in they talk in a language that most of us do not
> understand.  I usually walk out confused knowing just enough to frustrate
> my wife when I get home and she asks me questions.
>
> We need people that can 'splain this stuff in simple terms for we the
> confused.
>
> I now have a certified financial planner that runs regular seminars on
> 401Ks, IRAs, retirement (please, soon) and other items financial, but not
> checkbook balancing or budgeting.  I will say that since I have used his
> services my investments (retirement accounts) now earn 10% or better as
> opposed to the 2% I might have gotten in the past.
>
> Gone are the days of practical high school classes like home economics,
> shop, typing, accounting, etc.
>
> The youngsters (Generation X and Y?) have little or no clue about money,
> saving and investing.  They think they are entitled and we (well, the
> government) will take care of them.
>
> Sigh, there are soooo many things wrong with our education system and not
> just high school, but colleges/universities too.
>
> Phil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Upton, Shawn
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:52 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] [NTC] Explaining Benefits
>
> I recall in college one class was required; it was like an hour per week.
> One credit course.  Something like that.  The prof/lecturer brought in
> various speakers, and I recall one or two talks on money--the rest was more
> war stories I think--too long to remember.
>
> But otherwise yes, I agree, not enough time is spent encouraging young
> people to invest in HSA, 401k, etc.  I actually do not recall being taught
> how to balance a checkbook.  If I was taught, it must have been in 3rd
> grade.  Otherwise, outside of compound interest, nothing was spent on
> various money issues in high school nor college.  I guess it wasn't
> required for my college-bound track when I was in high school.
>
> In the workplace, new hires get (or got, been a while since I was one) a
> good push to invest in 401k, and now the HSA.  During open enrollment the
> 401k and HSA gets pushed.  But it's not really any course of study.
>
> I'd be interested in what others have to say.  I feel most people are left
> wandering around, picking up bits as they go, and hopefully finding decent
> peers who will guide them.  Myself, I'm pretty new to it all and would love
> to read a good book explaining it all.  I peruse the bogleheads forum but
> unfortunately financial stuff goes over my head just like poetry.
>
> Shawn Upton
> Section Head, Test Engineering
> Sensors Business Unit
> Allegro MicroSystems, LLC
> [log in to unmask]
> 603.626.2429/fax: 603.641.5336
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas Pauls
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:35 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] [NTC] Explaining Benefits
>
> Good morning all,
>
> A completely non-technical question for you this morning.  As many of you
> know, my evil twin brother Dave Hillman and I have the great privilege of
> mentoring and supervising our extremely bright co-op students and interns
> (7 this summer).  We have found, over the years, that these students do
> not get any kind of education or training on how to make intelligent
> choices relevant to benefits.  Things like medical choices, HSA vs. FSA,
> pre-tax vs. post-tax dollars, 401K options, etc.  None of the colleges I
> know of have such a course for graduating seniors.  Rockwell Collins does
> not have any such training, though it is being discussed for the future.
>
> So, I am wondering if any of your companies offer your new professionals
> such training or know of good publicly available courses on the topics?
>
> Doug Pauls
> Principal Materials and Process Engineer Rockwell Collins
>
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