HMMMM
I'm not going to disagree with Brian, but it's a fine point. 
For example how would a native metal be classified? If it's just found lying
around is it mined, picked up, extracted or as Dave said just "produced!?
Are we now in for a long series of legalistic appeals :)or do we have to
pre-emptively appeal and get a higher board clarification? 
I'm beginning to see the benefits of the British way here rather than the
US. In other words we would just muddle through this, whereas in US it seems
every thing has to be written out starting with the constitution.
 
Best
 
 
 
Mike

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Subject: Re: [TN] NTC Element Quiz Answer

Well, that's a switch. Dave gets disqualified from his own quiz.  I love it
 On Apr 4, 2015 1:52 AM, "Brian Ellis" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> A question of semantics. Is N the 2nd most produced chemical in the USA?
> If I buy a cylinder of N2, the contents are obtained by the fractional
> distillation of air; this is not a "produced chemical" because the raw
> material is there, anyway.
>
> Even the building block of nitrogenous compounds, ammonia, is made by
> reacting hydrogen with atmospheric nitrogen.
>
> I therefore maintain that elemental nitrogen is not "produced" because it
> is all around us as a diatomic gas  and appeal to EQAB that they ensure
the
> questions are better worded. :-)
>
> Brian
>
> On 03/04/2015 22:08, David Hillman wrote:
>
>> Here is the Element Quiz Answer:
>>
>> The Question:
>> This element is the 2rd most commonly produced chemical in the United
>> States. This element's name is related to saltpeter ( salts of Petra!).
>> The
>> Greek words "pnigo" or "pnigein". The technology of Positron Emission
>> Tomography. Which element is being described?
>>
>> The Answer:
>> The element in Nitrogen (N). Nitrogen is the 30th most abundant element
on
>> earth and the 2nd most produced in the United States. Daniel Rutherford
>> derived the name "nitrogen" from the Greek words "nitron" and "genes"
>> which
>> stand for "soda or saltpeter forming". The Group 16 elements are often
>> described by an archaic name - the pnictogen elements as the word
>> "pnictogen" is the Greek verb for "to choke" referring to nitrogen as a
>> choking gas. The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry
(IUPAC)
>> does not recognize the term "pnictogen" despite its use by many
>> chemists.Radioisotope N-13 has a half life of 10 minutes and produces a
>> positron as it decays. PET - Positron Emission Tomography - can track the
>> positron's interaction with negative electrons in the human body
producing
>> an image when N-13 is injected as part of medical assessments.
>>
>>
>> The winner of the weekly element quiz is Mordechai Kirshenbaum and he
>> will get
>> the services of Clumpy and Kloumpios for the week. Many correct responses
>> this week with several only being seconds apart per the Firewall time
>> stamp. The seven EQAB members had significant issues assessing Doug's
>> response of "crapium" as they have experiences similar to his submission
>> rationale when trying to obtain mineral rights for their mining
>> operations.
>> However, the Greek word "pnigo" does not translate to "Senate" and the
PET
>> reference was for radioisotope N-13 so EQAB determined that Doug's
>> submission could not be accepted.
>>
>> Note - I did order a copy of the element book that James Head (and
>> Anne-Sophie) suggested so many new clues will be available for use in the
>> Quiz in the future.
>>
>>
>> So far Clumpy and Kloumpios have done the following:
>>
>> Past Quiz winners/tasks:
>> Week 1 Dick Krug,  Spartan Complex Systems
>> Week 2 Laura Turbini, IRC
>> Week 3 James Head, Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited
>> Week 3 Pat Goodyear, PGE
>> Week 4 Joe Russeau, Precision Analysts Laboratory
>> Week 5 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security
>> Week 6 Steve Gregory
>> Week 7 Phil Kinner
>> Week 8 Brian Ellis
>> Week 9 James Head,Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited
>> Week 10 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>> Week 11 Keith Calhoun, Sopark Corp
>> Week 12 Matthias Mansfeld, Mansfeld-Elektronik
>> Week 13 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>> Week 14 Brian Ellis
>> Week 15 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security
>> Week 16 Steve Gregory
>> Week 17 Phil Kinner
>> Week 18 Ian Braddock, MBDA Systems
>> Week 19 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>> Week 20 Denny Fritz, SAIC
>> Week 21 Amol Kane
>> Week 21 Dewey Whittaker, Honeywell
>> Week 21 David Bealer, Watch Fire Sign
>> Week 22 Phil Kinner
>> Week 23 Guy Ramsey, RD Circuits
>> Week 24 Mark Kostinovsky, Schlumberger
>> Week 25 Keith Calhoun, SoparkCorp
>> Week 26 Paul Reid, PWB Interconnect Solutions Inc
>> Week 27 Greg Munie, IPC
>> Week 28 Steve Gregory
>> Week 29 Gus Trakas, Viasystems
>> Week 29 Steve Creswick
>> Week 30 Robert Welch,Moog Component Group
>> Week 31 Heidi Havelka, Interplex Sunbelt
>> Week 32 Raye Rivera, Canoga Perkins
>> Week 33 Steve Creswick
>> Week 34 Dewey Whittaker, Honeywell
>> Week 35 Don Vischulis
>> Week 36 Greg Munie, IPC
>> Week 37 Larry Dzaugis
>> Week 37 Bonus Question Steve Mikell
>> Week 38 Curt McNamara, Logic PD
>> Week 38 Bonus Question Dewey Whittaker, Honeywell
>> Week 39 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>> Week 40 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>> Week 40 Ron Feyereisen, Sigmatron Int.
>> Week 41 Steve Gregory
>> Week 42 Steve Mikell
>> Week 43 Mark Kostinovsky, Schlumberger
>> Week 44 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>> Week 44 Eddie Hofer, Rockwell Collins
>> Week 45 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>> Week 46 Joe Russeau, Precision Analysts Laboratory
>> Week 47 Phil Bavaro,L-3 Communications
>> Week 48 Brian Ellis
>> Week 49 Leland Woodall,CSTech
>> Week 49 Drew Meyer, Benchmark Electronics
>> Week 50 Greg Munie, IPC
>> Week 51 Karen Tellefsen.
>> Week 52 Greg Munie, IPC
>> Week 53 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>> Week 54 Phil Bavaro, L-3 Com.
>> Week 55 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc. deferred to Richard Stadem, GD,
>> Week 56 Carl Van Wormer, Cipher Engineering LLC
>> Week 57 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc
>> Week 58 Leland Woodall, CSTech, Inc.
>> Week 58 Bonus Question Robert Wolfe
>> Week 59 Greg Munie, IPC
>> Week 60 Graham Collins, Sunsel Systems
>> Week 61 James Head, Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited
>> Week 62 Leland Woodall
>> Week 62 Brien Bush, Cirtronics
>> Week 63 Pat Goodyear, PGE
>> Week 64 Ed Popielarski
>> Week 65 Jim West, N.S. International
>> Week 66 Brian Ellis
>> Week 67 Ravinder Ajmani, HGST
>> Week 68 Robert Wolfe
>> Week 69 Joe Russeau, PAL.
>> Week 69 Leland Woodall, Keihin North America
>> Week 70 Jim West, N.S. Internationa
>> Week 71 Steve Gregory
>> Week 72 Bhanu Sood, CALCE
>> Week 72 Ed Popielarsk
>> Week 72 Robert Welch, Moog Component Group
>> Week 73 Torsten Hagge, Kristronics GmbH
>> Week 74 Greg Munie, IPC
>> Week 75 Doug Pauls, Rockwell Collins
>> Week 76 Graham Collins, Sunsel Systems
>> Week 77 Robert Kondner, Index Designs
>> Week 77 Bonus Brien Bush, Cirtronics
>> Week 78 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>>
>> Week 79 Denny Fritz, SAIC
>> - After NCAA basketball,  the guys better get right down to work Monday
>> morning helping with the A)Technology Roadmap, B) Supply Chain Roadmap,
>> and
>> C) Anti-Counterfeit Plans we are doing for Department of Defense printed
>> circuit boards.  Polished versions are due at NAVSEA Crane  in 3 weeks.
>> How are the guys at typing and proofreading?  Say, if they get us caught
>> up, they can work on the farm tractor here - hope they can get out of the
>> John Deere mode enough to work on my Farm-all Super C that's only 60
years
>> old (bought new by my dad around 1954) - it needs new tires for one
thing.
>> We need it to rake the hay that my twin grandsons have promised to
harvest
>> come June.
>>
>> Week 80 Brian Ellis
>> - I can hear the rumble of John Deeres coming up the hill, 2 minutes and
>> they will be here. Their relatives have been told and replied that they
>> should not expect good food as they are in the Lenten fast, as are many
>> people here, awaiting the Orthodox Easter, a week after the Western one.
>> All animal products forbidden, virtually vegan. In the last week, only
dry
>> bread and water are allowed, not even olive oil. Happily, the boys will
be
>> well fed chez Brian, as he does not go along with fasting; I have a big
>> lump of leg of pork marinating in wine and spices for a good roast for
>> dinner this evening. There is a big thumping at the door...
>>
>> Week 81 Mordechai Kirshenbaum
>> -assisted with ????
>>
>> Everyone have a safe week.
>>
>> Dave Hillman
>> Rockwell Collins
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>> Data Credit Note: the information in the Element Quizzes is taken from
>> several published sources including The History and Use of Our Earth's
>> Chemical Elements by R. Krebs and Nature's Building Blocks by J. Emsley.
>>
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