Hey Jim,

You should get yourself some of these:

http://www.amazon.com/HDE-Adjustable-Anti-Static-Electrostatic-Discharge/dp/B002IXYR1U

Steve

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Jim West <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Thanks to those that replied.  Some were quite funny and there are some
> days I wish we could implement a few of those ideas. :-)
>
> Richard,
>
> I'm aware of continuous monitors for wrist straps but not a continuous
> monitor that would check the ESD shoes and operator connection?  What
> systems are you referring to.  You can email me offline if you don't want
> to get into specific suppliers/products.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:15 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] ESD controls
>
> Nah.
> The solution already exists! The problem is, none of you are using it.
> The Constant Monitoring systems used in Tier 4 companies for the wrist
> straps are easily expanded to ESD flooring in and around the assembly areas
> where the components are usually outside of their Faraday packaging.
> Constant monitors can be set up to go through the operator to the floor
> ground in the immediate area. So if the operator has a faulty shoe ground
> OR a faulty wrist strap ground, every time they touch the equipment it
> checks the resistance and beeps if it is out of range.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gregg Owens
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 10:37 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] ESD controls
>
> I think disabling the machines directly would be hard to setup the
> software to "talk" between your ESD tester and the machine directly.
>
> An alternate would be to use your ERP system linked to the work order
> operation for the SMT line to the passing ESD testing. So the technician
> could not log into the work order operation without first passing ESD
> testing.
>
> Our ERP system handles the ESD test results and would venture that it
> would be easier to create software links to the WO operations.
>
> BTW, this is an excellent idea to error-proof your process, especially
> when escapes are possible. If the is a way to take a shortcut, there always
> seem to be a will to take shortcuts by some of your staff.
>
> Gregg Owens
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jim West
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 8:06 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] ESD controls
>
> All,
>
> Has anyone seen or know of a control system that prevents an operator from
> running an SMT line if they did not pass or go through an ESD test. (i.e.
> ESD shoe check)?
>
> Let me give you the scenario we are considering.  Operators go through one
> entrance that requires them to check their ESD compliant shoes and if the
> test is good, they would walk through a turnstile that is linked to the ESD
> tester.  Our operators have bar- coded badges that would identify them.  We
> also have other entrances/exits to the SMT area that are required for
> safety reasons.  If an operator decides to enter the room without going
> through the ESD check entrance, once the operators scans their card at the
> SMT line, the machine (s) would be disabled since they did not pass or go
> through the ESD check.
>
> If that sounds like a crazy idea, what are other factories doing to ensure
> every operator has been checked for proper ESD compliancy within ESD
> controlled zones?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>
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