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Thank you for taking the time to tell us Jack. Much appreciated by me, 
and no doubt by all of us.

Have the GREATEST nice day!

Cheers..............

AndyK
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From: "Jack Olson" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: 2015-03-11 04:40:12
Subject: [DC] Jax APEX ReMix

>Greetings,
>Before my recent trip to San Diego for the IPC CONFERENCE and APEX/EXPO
>fades to a dim memory, I thought I would share my experience with those 
>of
>you who couldn't attend. (since we have had shrinking travel budgets, I
>always appreciate hearing from YOU if I can't make it to something)
>So, most of my involvement was in the IPC Standards Development 
>Committee
>Meetings, and here's a synopsis of the ones I attended:
>(apologies in advance if I misunderstood or misrepresented anything.
>Sometimes I still feel like "the new guy" during these discussions)
>
>J-STD-001/IPC-A-610 SYNERGY MEETING (Saturday 8:00-5:00) This meeting 
>works
>to resolve discrepancies between the Requirements for Soldered 
>Electrical
>and Electronic Assemblies (J-STD-001) and the Acceptability of 
>Electronic
>Assemblies standard (IPC-A-610).
>-
>The committee discussed the "void criteria" in Table 7-16 for 
>components
>with non-collapsible solder balls. There is not enough data available 
>to
>support a decision either way, so the committee was proposing to add 
>the
>text "void criteria will be established between user and supplier". 
>There
>were arguments against this, because it could create "action items" for
>many companies to establish acceptability criteria for voids with its
>suppliers. The committee voted to accept the text “void criteria is not
>established.”
>-
>Solder “Vertical Fill” Requirement (IPC-A-610 Table 7-4) One of the 
>longest
>discussions was determining the solder filling requirement for plated
>holes. The committee was considering relaxing the requirement for 
>designs
>with copper planes (or for holes connected to thermal planes), because 
>of
>the difficulty of getting solder to fill the hole.
>Maybe this example will illuminate the important points of the 
>discussion:
>Let's say we specify a 2-pin through-hole connector in a design as a
>"power" connector, one pin connected to a power plane and the other to 
>a
>ground plane. Now suppose we specify another 2-pin connector in the 
>same
>design as a "sensor" connector, with signal connections (neither pin 
>tied
>to a plane). Now, if the soldering requirements are relaxed for holes
>connected to thermal planes, the question will immediately be asked, 
>"Why
>does my Sensor Connector have to be soldered BETTER than my Power
>Connector?" It doesn't make sense. If the relaxed requirement is 
>acceptable
>for one, it should be acceptable for the other, and the very next 
>proposal
>will be to relax the requirement for ALL soldered holes. The committee 
>is
>not prepared to accept that yet without reliability data to support the
>change.
>On the other side of the discussion, suppose we are specifying a 70-pin
>Through-Hole connector and we decide to connect all of the unused pins 
>to
>the ground plane. As long as the mechanical strength of the connection 
>is
>not compromised and the electrical connection is maintained through-out 
>our
>worst-case scenarios (extreme thermal cycling, for example) do we 
>really
>care if those holes are completely filled with solder?
>I don't think this issue has been fully resolved by IPC, but for now, 
>the
>proposal to change the requirements for designs with thermal planes was
>REJECTED.
>-
>Board Edge Delamination (J-STD-001 9.1.3, IPC-A-610 10.2.5) The 
>committee
>resolved a discrepancy between the way edge delamination criteria was
>stated in the two documents. If I understood correctly, one document
>declares a reject if the delamination is greater than 50% of the 
>distance
>to the nearest conductor or GREATER THAN 0.1 inches from the board 
>edge.
>The other document
>declares a reject if the delamination is greater than 50% of the 
>distance
>to the nearest conductor or WITHIN 0.1 inches of the conductor. The
>committee voted for the second option.
>
>IPC-6012 / IPC-A-600 BARE BOARD ACCEPTABILITY (Sunday 8:00-5:00)
>Copper Wrap Requirement (IPC-6012 Table 3-4)
>The committee had proposed changing the wrap requirement from 500
>micro-inches to 200 microinches. The document is falling behind current
>manufacturing practices (it has been reported that 80% of high density
>board designs are being fabricated at 200 with written waivers or
>exceptions to the requirement), but several negative votes have been
>submitted against the proposed standard for ballot.
>I think Don Dupriest's point was that many of his products had 
>specifically
>been designed for enough clearance to maintain the 500 requirement, and 
>by
>changing the standard, he wouldn’t be able to prevent fabricators from
>building to 200 without revising the procurement documentation. Others
>expressed reluctance based on the lack of reliability data, so the
>committee voted to retain the 500 specification for now. This brought 
>up
>another discussion related to legacy data, below:
>-
>“Cut-In” dates to preserve Legacy Product Requirements:
>The traditional method of calling out IPC standards on drawings is to 
>use
>the document number WITHOUT the revision letter. A specification that 
>uses
>a document number without its revision level is always assumed to be
>“whatever the latest revision is”. That way, the product can be
>manufactured using the latest industry standards without having to 
>revise
>the drawings or other procurement documentation.
>The IPC is entertaining the idea of using “cut-in dates” in certain
>situations to allow fabricators to “catch up” to the latest 
>publications.
>For example, the committee that maintains the IPC-4101 “Specification 
>for
>Base Materials” is implementing this concept to allow laminate
>manufacturers a certain amount of time to use up their existing 
>materials
>before the new specification goes into effect on the cut-in date.
>-
>Micro-section Preparation
>There were two ways of interpreting the tolerance for preparing
>micro-section samples for quality control inspection, related to the
>acceptable amount that the section can be off-center. The specification
>allows 10%, but it is not clear how to determine the 10% tolerance. Is 
>it
>10% of the distance away from the true center of the hole? or is it 
>that
>the measurement from side to side can’t be more than 10% less than the 
>true
>diameter of the hole? After a lengthy discussion, the committee voted 
>to
>measure the diameter, which is more definitive than trying to measure 
>the
>depth of the "grinding zone", but this method allows a greater margin 
>of
>error.
>
>DESIGNER DAY (Monday 7:30-1:00)
>This was a series of short presentations on topics of interest to 
>circuit
>board designers.
>- Planning for Design Success - Carl Schattke, Tesla Motors
>- Component Mounting Issues and Recommendations - Rainer Taube, Taube
>Electronic GmbH and FED
>- Surface Mount Design and Land Pattern - Tom Hausherr, CID+ President, 
>PCB
>Libraries, Inc.
>- Successful Communication with Cross-Cultural Teams - Stephen Chavez, 
>CID+
>UTC Aerospace Systems
>- Success Through Control of Cost and Quality - Rick Hartley, retired 
>from
>L-3 Communications
>
>IPC-2152 CURRENT CARRYING CAPACITY (Monday 3:00-5:00)
>The initial release of IPC-2152 has been out for a few years now, and 
>the
>IPC has not received any negative feedback regarding the data or advice 
>it
>provides (no news is good news?). A survey was created to collect user
>feedback, and to help set a direction for the next steps in the 
>evolution
>of the document. The summary highlighted three areas for further study;
>1) study the combined effect of current through parallel traces
>2) study the thermal performance of vias
>3) study the performance of flexible circuits
>A test board design was proposed that would be useful for items 1) and 
>3),
>and the fact that this design could also be used to test pulses and 
>current
>spikes was discussed. FTG offered to make the test vehicle circuit 
>boards
>for the committee.
>Oh, almost forgot to mention this; The document/committee name is being
>changed from "Current Carrying Capacity" to "Thermal Management"
>
>KEYNOTE – THE XBOX STORY (Tuesday 8:00-10:00)
>Robbie Bach, former President of Entertainment & Devices at Microsoft, 
>gave
>an interesting presentation about “The Xbox Story: Lessons in Strategy,
>Team Management and Entrepreneurship”. He started out talking about 
>goals
>and the benefit of focusing a group mission into one sentence. For
>examples, Microsoft’s ”put a computer on every desk in every home 
>running
>Microsoft software”, and Sonos’ “bring all the music in the world into
>every room of your house” (paraphrase). But the concept that impressed 
>me
>the most was that when Microsoft had the “Red Ring of Death” disaster 
>that
>cost them over a $BILLION to recover from, their Customer Approval 
>rating
>actually INCREASED during that time because of the way they handled it
>(extending warranty to 3 years, no-hassle return policy, etc.) Great 
>Talk!
>
>IPC-2221/2222 PRINTED BOARD DESIGN STANDARD (Tuesday 10:00-5:00)
>At one point in time the IPC had considered adding all of the Design
>Guidelines for HDI into IPC-2222 (Design Standard for Rigid Boards), 
>but it
>has been decided that there is too much specific information for HDI, 
>and
>they will continue to retain that information in the sectional document
>IPC-2226 (Sectional Design Standard for High Density Interconnect). 
>This
>document was originally released in 2003 and needs a significant 
>update, as
>the technology has changed so much since then. The committee addressed 
>some
>of the initial suggestions and assigned sub-groups to review and revise
>some of the data in the Tables.
>
>SHOW FLOOR RECEPTION (Tuesday 5:00-6:00)
>I was busy in meetings most of the day so I didn't invest much time on 
>the
>Exhibition floor, but one of the more interesting technologies I saw 
>was
>eSurface, which is a new process for creating very thin traces with 
>strong
>peel strength and tight tolerance. One mil trace/space geometries are 
>now
>routinely being manufactured at Murietta Circuits in Anaheim, CA. 
>Here's
>How:
>http://esurface.com/the-esurface-manufacturing-process-steps/
>Here's a collection of Photos and Videos from the exhibition floor 
>hosted
>by "RealTime with... IPC"
>http://realtimewith.com/rtwboot/show.php?id=81
>
>IPC-7351 LAND PATTERN STANDARD and
>IPC-7070 COMPONENT MOUNTING (Wed 8:00-12:00)
>The IPC is reviving the old IPC-CM-770 Component Mounting Guideline 
>(1996?)
>and after a complete rewrite it will be assigned to number IPC-7070, 
>which
>will conform to the newer document naming convention. Rainer Taube is
>leading this effort. He will be collaborating with Tom Hausherr who is
>heading up a significant revision to IPC-7351 (Land Patterns). The
>committee voted to rename IPC-7351 from a “Land Pattern Standard” to a
>“Land Pattern Guideline”, since there is so much variance in land 
>pattern
>dimensions currently being used in the industry. Some of the more 
>drastic
>changes in IPC-7351 is to move most of the component mounting 
>information
>to IPC-7070, to recommend “rounded rectangle” shapes over “rectangle” 
>in
>many families, especially for RoHS compatible designs (paste screening
>process doesn’t like sharp corners anyway, harder to “release”, less
>wetting in reflow leaves exposed copper corners, corners don’t 
>contribute
>to solder joint reliability anyway). Another change is that companies 
>are
>starting to realize that all the silkscreen ink underneath components 
>is
>just a waste of ink, not useful to anyone and in many cases contributes 
>to
>soldering defects because small components can’t settle into molten 
>solder
>if they are riding on a silkscreen line (think of a “teeter-totter” on 
>a
>playground). The three-tier system based on design density is being 
>removed
>from several families of components, in favor of recommending a “best” 
>or
>“proportional” solder joint dimension. Also, the “rectangular 
>courtyard”
>system is being replaced by courtyards that more closely match the
>component body size to allow better placement strategies that won’t 
>look
>like errors to CAD rule-checking systems.
>
>IPC-7093 BOTTOM TERMINATION COMPONENTS (Wednesday 1:30-3:00)
>The committee discussed a new etching technology that would expose part 
>of
>the side wall of the termination to the plating process, which would 
>make a
>partial side fillet, making automated optical inspection more reliable.
>Also discussed window-pane techniques for the thermal pad solder 
>stencil
>and negative values in Table 6-1.
>One interesting point that came up was that Table 6-1 in 7093 is 
>identical
>to Table 3-1 in 7351. It wasn't clear who copied from who, so now if 
>that
>table needs to be revised, who owns it? and who prevents them from 
>becoming
>out of sync with each other? Maybe we need some kind of digital "links"
>when documents are borrowing from each other?
>
>TRIBUTE TO DIETER BERGMAN (Wednesday 6:30-8:30)
>Dieter Bergman joined the IPC in 1962, became chairman of the IPC 
>Design
>Committee in 1968, was elected Chairman of the IPC Technical Activities
>Executive Committee in 1974, and then became the IPC Technical 
>Director.
>Known as “the man who would take 45 minutes to answer a 10-second
>question”, my personal experience was that he and Gary Ferrari came to
>California to present the new IPC-STD-275 Design Standard to us 
>sometime in
>the late 80’s, planted the seed that we could all benefit from
>collaboration, and encouraged us to work towards creating a common
>foundation for everyone to build upon. That Design Standard energized 
>our
>PCAD User Group, and I’m still involved to this day because of his
>inspiration. Thanks, Dieter… R.I.P.
>
>Oh, I suppose I should mention some
>CELEBRATIONS!
>Gary Ferrari is our newest IPC HALL OF FAME member! (He taught me CID+, 
>and
>I am so happy that he has been recognized for his work)
>Oh, and eight people received Dieter Bergman Memorial Scholarships:
>Don Dupriest, Denny Fritz, Dave Hillman, Bernie Kessler, Bob Neves, Ray
>Prasad, Randy Reed and Doug Sober
>and my friend Kelly Dack became an IPC certified Trainer at the 
>conference,
>successfully completing his first CID class, monitored by Gary. Way to 
>go,
>Kelly!
>Now we have 17 new CID members!!
>and we also have 10 new CID+ members, taught by Paul Fleming!!!
>and I got to eat ice cream with Bernie Kessler!!!!
>
>ok, when I get to the quadruple exclamation points, I realize I need to
>fade away for awhile. In summary, even though I was there for 6 days I
>still feel like I missed a lot. Hope this helps those of you who could 
>not
>attend this year.
>
>Jack (aka "the new guy")
>
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