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Eat more chik'n!     Energy independance through dairy and feedlot 
methane capture!

At 09:05 AM 8/26/2014, Robert Kondner wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I must agree with Richard, just last night I was in my Dad's silo fixing a
>240 line that had come loose. Dusty, dirty place full of ground up corn
>stalks, leaves and corn. All fermented into a nice silage except for a
>little mold that grows on the top between feedings. Or, if the 240 line is
>down for a few days in the summer a lot more mold. But cows eat it either
>way.
>
>Cows eat stuff you would not believe and turn it into high grade protein.
>And our cars need even cleaner fuel sources!
>
>Let's hear it for the cows!
>
>Bob K.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
>Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 11:32 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] NTC - I believe ... (my credo)
>
>Karen, very true. However, cows each much more than corn, so the efficiency
>cycle is much higher than you think.
>And Pete's number of 40% for ethanol production was true about 4-5 years
>ago, but I believe today it is more like 20-25% and dropping rapidly.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Karen Tellefsen
>Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:51 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] NTC - I believe ... (my credo)
>
>Ethanol from corn is a poor use of resources.  Ethanol from sugar cane is
>much better, but cane only grows in the tropics.
>
>Using corn to feed cows is also a poor use of resources.  It takes 8 kg of
>corn to produce 1 kg of beef, this is not efficient.
>In addition, ruminant livestock produces about 28% of  human-related
>methane.
>
>Karen Tellefsen
>
>
>
>
>From:   Pete <[log in to unmask]>
>To:     <[log in to unmask]>,
>Date:   08/26/2014 10:13 AM
>Subject:        Re: [TN] NTC - I believe ... (my credo)
>Sent by:        TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
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>
>
>Some good answers here, led me to do some more research
>
>About 1/3 of the US corn crop goes towards livestock feed.
>13% is exported.
>40% is used for ethanol production
>That leaves 14% for food and beverage (including oils, syrups, sugars)
>
>Ethanol is being used in some cases to replace MTBE, to increase octane
>rating.  Why?  Because of it's resistance to ignition.  This is  very tiny
>percentage of the gasoline blend.  E10 and E85 are ethanol as an attempt to
>replace fossil fuels.  However, that resistance to ignition, when used at
>10% or 86% is what makes it an inefficient fuel, increasing consumption by
>3% or 25% respectively.  It takes one unit of fossil fuel to generate
>1.3 units of (less efficient) ethanol fuel.
>
>Since 1980, the ethanol industry has received $45B in government subsidies.
>
>The windmills don't seem so bad anymore.
>
>Pete
>
>
>
>
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