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Just to set the record straight, the Fukushima reactors survived the
earthquake.
What did them in was lack of emergency power to shut them down properly, as
the emergency supply was located in the basement which got flooded by the
tsunami. 

Build the nukes on high ground!
Ahne. 

PS: Switzerland decided against nuclear power because of the Fukushima
disaster!
 

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Karen Tellefsen
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 7:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] NTC - I believe ... (my credo)

Nukes will be necessary in the future for clean energy production. 
However, we need to remember
that nuclear power plants are potentially disastrously dangerous, and must
be run very carefully by trained and conscientious personnel.  They also
need to be placed in locations not especially subject to earthquakes,
tsunamis or hurricanes.

Everything costs something.

Karen Tellefsen 




From:   Robert Kondner <[log in to unmask]>
To:     <[log in to unmask]>, 
Date:   08/26/2014 10:41 AM
Subject:        Re: [TN] NTC - I believe ... (my credo)
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Hi,

 Renewable energy sources tend to be expensive and from what I read can only
be counted on for 20% of total usage.  That leaves a huge hunk to be
provided by "Large Infrastructure" producers. (Fossil fuel or nukes.) I do
love saving energy, that is a win / win if there ever was one.

 Batteries cost so much they are almost useless here. Electro chemical
systems are not exactly "Clean". 

 If that 20% limit for renewable is real I think that means nuke plants for
the bulk (breeder ???) is all we have left?

Any Thoughts?

Bob K.

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pete
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] NTC - I believe ... (my credo)

Some good answers here, led me to do some more research

About 1/3 of the US corn crop goes towards livestock feed.
13% is exported.
40% is used for ethanol production
That leaves 14% for food and beverage (including oils, syrups, sugars)

Ethanol is being used in some cases to replace MTBE, to increase octane
rating.  Why?  Because of it's resistance to ignition.  This is  very tiny
percentage of the gasoline blend.  E10 and E85 are ethanol as an attempt to
replace fossil fuels.  However, that resistance to ignition, when used at
10% or 86% is what makes it an inefficient fuel, increasing consumption by
3% or 25% respectively.  It takes one unit of fossil fuel to generate
1.3 units of (less efficient) ethanol fuel.

Since 1980, the ethanol industry has received $45B in government subsidies.

The windmills don't seem so bad anymore.

Pete

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