Ahne,
 
Apologize for using your post to make a comment to the originator.
I must have deleted the message.
 
How about using the pin 1 pad centroid of the device as a local fiducial?
Assuming your software allows you to do this.
 
Best regards,
 
Gerry
 
> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 07:33:45 -0700
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> With 0.4 mm pitch you have about 0.2 mm room between pads. To be sure the part is landing on the pads you probably want a placement precision of close to 20 um. Question 1: can your pick-and-placement machine meet that criteria (all day long) and question 2: are the pads where they are supposed to be with respect to the board or panel fiducials.
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> Lots of opportunity for headaches especially when it comes to question #2!
> 
> Ahne.
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> Are local fiducials (those specifically associated with a single fine-pitch device) necessary anymore?  I've been told by a rep from our Assy CM that they're not necessary anymore with the advent of high-tech pick and place machines.  We've actually been designing some boards with .4mm pitch BGA's  Does this fine of pitch still not require fiducials?  Thanks in advance for the response.
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