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Ed,

Our machine is an OMAX and they are in Kent, WA so give them a call, you 
may be able to take a sample in or they may recommend someone local to 
you.   You could send us a board or test sample and providing there is 
no Lead issue we can do a test cut.      We do composites and laminates.


pat


On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Ed Popielarski wrote:

> Pat,
>
> This is something I had looked into back in the late 80's and at the 
> time was not really viable for FR4 due to terrible fraying of the 
> glass fibers. Perhaps another look is due, since the technology has 
> had a chance to mature, especially with abrasives in the mix (pun 
> intended).
>
> Can you recommend a manufacturer/model, etc.? I'd like to take it for 
> a test drive.
>
> Ed Popielarski
> Engineering Manager
>
>
>                                970 NE 21st Ct.
>                               Oak Harbor, Wa. 98277
>
>                               Ph: 360-675-1322
>                               Fx: 206-624-0695
>                               Cl: 949-581-6601
>
>        “It's one kind of victory to slay a beast, move a mountain, and 
> cross a chasm, but it's another kind altogether to realize that the 
> beast, the mountain, and the chasm were of your own design.”
> 
> https://maps.google.com/maps/myplaces?hl=en&ll=48.315753,-122.643578&spn=0.011188,0.033023&ctz=420&t=m&z=16&iwloc=A
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Patrick Goodyear
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 8:10 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Laser depanelization
>
> As long a there is no lead or beryllium to deal with, water jetting is 
> the easiest and cleanest.   With or without abrasive.   Cuts above 
> water and the board doesn't even get wet, except for maybe some splash 
> back, jet moves way too fast, cutting jet at mach 2 or 3 at 180" per 
> minute linear speed, less than one gal per minute water.  it will 
> leave a clean edge with no burning.
>
> Pat Goodyear
> Control Tech Retired
> Central Coast Creative Cutting  www.creative-cutting.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Ahne Oosterhof wrote:
>
>> Hi Ed,
>> Try to get a sample done by LPKF.
>> 12555 SW Leveton Drive, Tualatin, OR.
>> 503-454-4202
>>
>> Better lasers / much cleaner cut.
>>
>> Ahne.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ed Popielarski
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 15:42 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [TN] Laser depanelization
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> One of our aerospace customers is requesting boards depanelized from 
>> support frames.
>>
>> I looked into router, but the conformal coating tends to smear and 
>> will be a significant FOD issue later.
>>
>> We are willing to invest in laser, however, the result is a bit of 
>> charring on the edge, not much of a surprise. Unfortunately, this 
>> example http://stevezeva.homestead.com/Capture.JPG was rejected on 
>> IPC-A-610-Rev E Para. 10.7.4 "Solder Mask Coating-Discoloration" 
>> "Burned or charred solder mask material.
>>
>> In my opinion, this is not within the "spirit of the law" since there 
>> are no specific provisions for laser depanelization, only marking.
>>
>> Anyone know of some way around this?
>>
>> Ed Popielarski
>> Engineering Manager
>>
>> [cid:[log in to unmask]]
>>                                970 NE 21st Ct.
>>                               Oak Harbor, Wa. 98277
>>
>>                               Ph: 360-675-1322
>>                               Fx: 206-624-0695
>>                               Cl: 949-581-6601
>>
>>        "It's one kind of victory to slay a beast, move a mountain, 
>> and cross a chasm, but it's another kind altogether to realize that 
>> the beast, the mountain, and the chasm were of your own design."
>>
>> 
>> https://maps.google.com/maps/myplaces?hl=en&ll=48.315753,-122.643578&s
>> pn=0.0 11188,0.033023&ctz=420&t=m&z=16&iwloc=A
>>
>>
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