Read somewhere: It is nice to be important, but it is very important to be
nice.

Ahne.

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Doug,
Having to be nice and being not nice is two different things. I was
referring to my occasional teasing of you, which is a compliment in a
Nietzsche sort of way.
Dewey

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Does this mean I have to be nice to Doug?

Dewey, one would hope this is always the case...........

Doug Pauls



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Dave,
Thank you for the reply. As usual an excellent reply. In this application,
the impact of nickel would a non-issue, but I will forgo it and specify the
copper. If this was a PB I would have no problem, but  I'm speculating on a
copper plating spec and thickness. I'm hoping my cross-section of the pin
will give me a target. The silver finish will be per ASTM B 700 with minimum
thickness of 200-300 micro-inches (more for the durability end then a
soldering concern). It's good to hear that standard solder and soldering
process is acceptable. I wouldn't feel comfortable trying to specify what
and how to solder.
Does this mean I have to be nice to Doug?
Dewey


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Hi Dewey - for what its worth, here are some thoughts. Silver is a very
common contact material so that's no surprise. You can solder to silver over
BeCu but having a copper underplate would make it more solderable. Also keep
in mind that silver and copper love each other so the solderability will
only be a short term function. BeCu is a very common pin material for
contact applications so also no surprise. Using a nickel barrier is a big
question as it would improve the contact characteristics in terms of both
wear and solderability. However, sometimes nickel causes functional problems
with the overall circuit characteristics. As for soldering, use Sn63, Sn60
or Sn62 as all three would work just fine (I don't see leaching being an
issue as long as the soldering process is typical). What you really need is
an old pin that you can do both XRF and then a cross section so you can
backwards engineering what the original plating stackup looked like. Good
Luck.

Dave Hillman
Rockwell Collins
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Dear Technet,
For the record I'm looking for a special talent. Old, old product that has
beryllium pins ultrasonically bonded in a plastic switch housing. The pin is
silver plated prior to installation. The spec  and materials have been
obsolete for 25-30 years. They asked me to write a new one, so my first
question was why silver? Watching too many Lone Ranger episodes as a child
or hooked on oxides?
One end of the pin rubs on the sliding switch plate (proprietary finish)
which is probably silver. The other end of the pin is installed in a PBA and
flow soldered .
So the pin has to be conductive, solderable and let's say hard. There is  no
specific information on the beryllium pin, so how do I help them without
knowing how I helped them. My questions are as follows:

*         Do I apply a copper plate on the pin first

*         Do I apply  a nickel barrier layer over the copper plate

*         What nickel plating spec (ASTM B 700) do I use and what minimum
thickness (200-300 micro-inches) when one end needs to be soldered

*         Should the solder in the flow solder bath be 2% Ag
I would not have designed this  is and what I want to change it may not be
possible, I'm open to suggestions to try anyway. Whole new pin with one
special surface finish, would be my reply.

Dewey

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