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Hi Doug!

Yep, it can handle documents. Send it my way...

Steve 


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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas Pauls
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Class III Solder paste, Sn63, Water Soluble

You are welcome Bob.

Steve Gregory, can your web page handle documents, or just photos?  If
it can handle the document, I will send it and people can download from
there. 

I will say that for those who have requested the white paper, it is
technically still a draft pending formal review from the J-STD-001
committee, but it has been peer reviewed by  about a dozen people I
respect, so I doubt it would change much.

Doug Pauls



From:   Bob Wettermann <[log in to unmask]>
To:     "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>, 
"TechNet E-Mail Forum" <[log in to unmask]>, "Bob Wetterman (Gmail)" 
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Date:   02/26/2014 10:15 AM
Subject:        RE: [TN] Class III Solder paste, Sn63, Water Soluble



Thanks?you are always thorough and professional in your replies!
 
From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:53 AM
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Bob Wetterman (Gmail)
Subject: Re: [TN] Class III Solder paste, Sn63, Water Soluble
 
Bob,
You have to read the whole section to understand the requirement.  You
can't use a type IN (inorganic) flux to solder assemblies.  Way too
dangerous unless you REALLY know what you are doing, and even then.... 

So, you can use water soluble fluxes, which fit in the OR designation in
most cases, but if it is a halide-bearing (which is the L1 designation)
flux, it is too active to be used as a low solids / no-clean flux.  If
your water soluble flux is ORL1 or higher (e.g. ORM0, ORM1, ORH0, ORH1)
you can still use it, but it has to be cleaned and you as the
manufacturer have to have objective evidence that you clean sufficiently
well to prevent electrochemical failures. That's what the "data
demonstrating compatibility" means. 

If anyone is interested, I wrote a white paper for the IPC, which will
be included as an appendix in IPC-J-STD-001 Rev F (sometime later this
year), which discusses what "objective evidence" and "compatibility
testing" 
means.  The upcoming J-STD-001, Rev F, as it stands now in draft, would
point you to IPC-9202 as one possible way to show compatibility. 

Did I answer your question or neatly rhumba around it? 

Doug Pauls 



From:        Bob Wettermann <[log in to unmask]> 
To:        <[log in to unmask]> 
Date:        02/26/2014 09:24 AM 
Subject:        [TN] Class III Solder paste, Sn63, Water Soluble 
Sent by:        TechNet <[log in to unmask]> 




Technetters:

According to the JSTD

"Flux shall not (N1N2,Defect Class 3) conform to flux activity levels L0
and L1 of flux materials rosin (RO), resin (RE) or organic"

That being said who is doing class III work, complying with JSTD Class
III requirements and using a water soluble Sn63 paste? (Our std does not
comply) Can someone recommend a good paste?

Bob Wettermann
BEST Inc


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