Hi! Cat among the pigeons: hydrogen is a metal because all the other 
elements in column 1A are metals. I know metallic liquid hydrogen is 
said to exist...

Brian

On 29.01.2014 15:24, David D. Hillman wrote:
> Hi Bev! If one reviews the clue....." This element is presumed to be a
> colorless gas in its natural state....", the clue did not state the Lv was
> a gas but only presumed to be. And as you have pointed out there is
> clearly no consensus on that statement by the materials community. I agree
> with you, given its spot in the Periodic Table, I am thinking metal but Lv
> is not exactly a conventional element so lots of things could happen.  I
> did hear the FEQAB members talking at lunch yesterday (they have some type
> of hush hush collaborative project here at Rockwell Collins so Doug and I
> see them in the hall ways from time to time) and they clearly plan to
> improve their appeal process research efforts to be as unbiased as
> possible for the FEQ participants. They also gave me a harsh reprimand for
> not covering all time zones.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> From:   Bev Christian <[log in to unmask]>
> To:     "'TechNet E-Mail Forum'" <[log in to unmask]>,
> <[log in to unmask]>
> Date:   01/28/2014 07:21 PM
> Subject:        RE: [TN] NTC Re: [TN] NTC Friday Element Quiz Answer, for
> FEQAB review and appeal.
>
>
>
> I find it hard to imagine that Livermorium is a gas. Just look at the
> PERIODIC table:
> First row, last 4 elements & going to the right - gas, gas, gas, gas
> Second row, last 4 elements & going to the right - solid, solid, gas, gas
> Third row, last 4 elements & going to the right - solid, solid, liquid,
> gas
> Fourth row, last 4 elements & going to the right - solid, solid, high
> vapor
> solid, gas
> Fifth row, last 4 elements & going to the right - solid, solid, solid, gas
> Sixth row, last 4 elements & going to the right - solid, X, X and probably
> gas.
>
> Yes, I am aware of gallium and mercury being liquid metals.  Nevertheless,
> I
> would be very surprised of Livermorium being anything but a metal - short
> lived as all get out and hot as a pistol, but a metal.
>
> Bev
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David D. Hillman
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:44 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] NTC Re: [TN] NTC Friday Element Quiz Answer, for FEQAB
> review
> and appeal.
>
> Good morning Richard - I was provided the following response from the
> FEQAB concerning you appeal of last week's FEQ:
>
> The FEQAB reviewed Mr. Stadem's formal appeal of the January 24 FEQ
> element Livermorium. Investigative research found two reference sources
> (Krebs and Emsley) which both contain statements on the possibility that
> Lv could be a gas in its natural state. And for the generic name -
> ununhexium - FEQAB has deferred to the International Union of Pure and
> Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) organization which approves the names and
> symbols of the elements for a review. Given the fact that IUPAC is still
> reviewing a Doug submission from last year, it is anticipated that a
> response will not be available for a considerable time. The FEQAB did say
> they appreciate the time and effort you have expended on the FEQ and hopes
>
> for you continued participation.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> From:   "Stadem, Richard D." <[log in to unmask]>
> To:     <[log in to unmask]>
> Date:   01/24/2014 03:32 PM
> Subject:        Re: [TN] NTC Friday Element Quiz Answer, for FEQAB review
> and appeal.
> Sent by:        TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
>
> Dear Mr. Hillman
> I strenuously object and request that this email be formally considered an
>
> appeal to the FEQAB board because the clues for this week's question used
> the generic name Ununhexium. The correct term is hexium. This is because
> everyone knows the latest research (and my pragmatic common sense) show
> that unhexium is not-hexium (or hexium, not), and therefore un-unhexium is
>
> not not-hexium, meaning it is hexium. In addition, I could find no
> research that supported the clue statement that Livermorium could possibly
>
> be a colorless gas in its natural state, as there is plenty of evidence it
>
> has never been actually seen in its natural state and absence of evidence
> of color is not evidence of absence of color, especially since there is no
>
> known instrumentation that could capture any light spectrum or diffracture
>
> while passing through this element in its short half-life of one billionth
>
> of a second, or whatever it was.
>
> Mr. Hillman, I ask if you have ever met anyone who has stated that they
> have actually seen Livermorium gas?  I challenge you to produce a credible
>
> witness or viable research with proof of the visibility of Livermorium. I
> think a 5 x 7 .pdf image of the refractory spectrum with appropriate test
> documentation would be adequate.
>
> In researching the answer, this was a source of confusion and therefore
> disqualifies the descriptive clues provided in this week's question. As
> such, there can be no real winner except by sheer dumb luck, and the
> weekly winner's archives should therefore show an asterisk behind the
> respected Mr. Woodall's and Mr. Feyereisen's name.
>
> If it had not been for those two incorrectly-stated clues I know I would
> have won.  Easily. Nooooo problemoooo.
>
> Signed,
> Richard D. Stadem
> Sr. Advanced Engineer/Scientist
> GENERAL DYNAMICS ADVANCED INFORMATION SYSTEMS
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David D. Hillman
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:22 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] NTC Friday Element Quiz Answer
>
> Hi folks - Here is the Friday Element Quiz Answer:
>
> The Question:
> This element is presumed to be a colorless gas in its natural state. It is
>
>
>
> produced by bombarding atoms of curium-248 with calcium-48 ions. It was
> given a "real" name in 2012. What element is being described?
>
> The Answer:
> The element is Livermorium (Lv)! Element 116 was named Livermorium in
> honor of the Livermore National Laboratory by the IUPAC in 2012. Lv was
> discovered in December of 2000 and per IUPAC rules initially given the
> generic name ununhexium. Lv is believe to have similar properties to
> polonium and tellurium due to its location in the Periodic table. It is
> also believed to be a colorless gas in its natural state.
>
>
> The winners of the weekly element quiz are Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc. and
>
> Ron Feyereisen, Sigmatron Int. They will split the services of Clumpy and
> Kloumpios for the week. I did not specify I wanted the official element
> name so Ron's response was deemed correct by the FEQAB. Ron - let me know
> where your facility is at and the boys will go there after spending a
> couple of days at Leland's facility.
>
> And next week I'll find a horribly ugly US East coast time to send out the
>
> Quiz question! :-)
>
>
> So far Clumpy and Kloumpios have done the following:
>
> Past Quiz winners/tasks:
> Week 1 Dick Krug,  Spartan Complex Systems
> Week 2 Laura Turbini, IRC
> Week 3 James Head, Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited
> Week 3 Pat Goodyear, PGE
> Week 4 Joe Russeau, Precision Analysts Laboratory
> Week 5 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security
> Week 6 Steve Gregory
> Week 7 Phil Kinner
> Week 8 Brian Ellis
> Week 9 James Head, Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited
> Week 10 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 11 Keith Calhoun, Sopark Corp
> Week 12 Matthias Mansfeld, Mansfeld-Elektronik
> Week 13 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 14 Brian Ellis
> Week 15 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security
> Week 16 Steve Gregory
> Week 17 Phil Kinner
> Week 18 Ian Braddock, MBDA Systems
> Week 19 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> Week 20 Denny Fritz
> Week 21 Amol Kane
> Week 21 Dewey Whittaker, Honeywell
> Week 21 David Bealer, Watch Fire Signs
> Week 22 Phil Kinner
> Week 23 Guy Ramsey, RD Circuits
> Week 24 Mark Kostinovsky, Schlumberger
> Week 25 Keith Calhoun, Sopark Corp
> Week 26 Paul Reid, PWB Interconnect Solutions Inc
> Week 27 Greg Munie, IPC
> Week 28 Steve Gregory
> Week 29 Gus Trakas, Viasystems
> Week 29 Steve Creswick
> Week 30 Robert Welch, Moog Component Group
> Week 31 Heidi Havelka, Interplex Sunbelt
> Week 32 Raye Rivera, Canoga Perkins
> Week 33 Steve Creswick
> Week 34 Dewey Whittaker, Honeywell
> Week 35 Don Vischulis
> Week 36 Greg Munie, IPC
> Week 37 Larry Dzaugis
> Week 37 Bonus Question Steve Mikell
> Week 38 Curt McNamara, Logic PD
>
> Week 38 Bonus Question Dewey Whittaker, Honeywell
> - deferred the boys to Curt's facility
>
> Week 39 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> - Tell the guys I'm giving them a late Christmas present, and they can
> spend the week at home with their wives fulfilling their own set of
> chores.  Maybe they'll get a chance to get back to NC a little later on in
>
>
>
> the year, and it will be warm enough to go fishing at the coast.
>
> Week 40 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
> - assisted with ????
>
> Week 40 Ron Feyereisen, Sigmatron Int.
> - assisted with ????
>
>
> Everyone have a safe week.
>
> Dave Hillman
> Rockwell Collins
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