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Main issue I see is you do not specify whether you want to start with 1 oz. copper on the outers or finish with 1 oz. Regards Steve Kelly

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Yoch, Brian
Sent: November-22-13 12:09 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] PCB stack up question

I used to sweat the stackup differences between vendors. But after talking to several reps face to face and over the phone I am no longer too attached to my stackup. The stackup that we call out is nothing more than a guideline for the CM to reference, because no 2 CMs will have the exact same process.

Brian Y. 

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Theodore J Tontis
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:11 AM
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Subject: [TN] PCB stack up question

I have a 6 layer stack up specified on my gerbers as:

0.0004 mil solder mask
0.0014 mil top layer 1oz copper
0.0086 mil 2 X 2116 prepreg
0.0014 mil inner 1 1oz copper
0.0140 mil core
0.0014 mil inner 2 1oz copper
0.0086 mil 2 X 2116 prepreg
0.0014 mil inner 3 1oz copper
0.0140 mil core
0.0014 mil inner 4 1oz copper
0.0086 mil 2 X 2116 prepreg
0.0014 mil bottom layer 1oz copper
0.0004 mil solder mask

0.0620 mil total stack up +/- 0.006

Our CM's vendor is requesting I change either
A: adjust the 14mil core to 12mil to meet 62±6mil finished thickness.
B: relax the finished thickness to 65±6mil..
C: control the board thickness with 62±6mil exclude the solder mask thickness.

Their stack up is as follows:

0.0005 mil solder mask
0.0020 mil top layer 1oz copper
0.0091 mil 2 X 2116 prepreg
0.0012 mil inner 1 1oz copper
0.0142 mil core
0.0012 mil inner 2 1oz copper
0.0085 mil 2 X 2116 prepreg
0.0012 mil inner 3 1oz copper
0.0142 mil core
0.0012 mil inner 4 1oz copper
0.0091 mil 2 X 2116 prepreg
0.0020 mil bottom layer 1oz copper
0.0005 mil solder mask

0.0649 mil total stack up +/- 0.006

I got my stack up from a local vendor I've worked with in the past.
Our CM has measured some of their bare boards at 0.070 and 0.071 mil thick.

Which stack up is correct or am I missing something important?


Ted T.


Theodore J. Tontis CID
Senior Manufacturing Engineer
[cid:[log in to unmask]]<http://www.eaton.com/>
11131 Adams Road
Franksville, WI 53126
Office 262-835-1552
Cell 262-510-3145
Fax 262-835-1544


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