Or George Wenger.  Also very knowledgeable. 

Reminds me of all the times here we get Doug Hillman and Dave Pauls.  Not 
sure which of us is being referenced.  And when I forward work stuff on to 
my son David, he is baffled and asks me if I had a heavy day of solvent 
sniffing.

Doug Pauls



From:   jrusseau.precisionanalysts.com <[log in to unmask]>
To:     <[log in to unmask]>
Date:   11/21/2013 09:53 AM
Subject:        Re: [TN] Final Surface finish
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I think you mean Gerard O'Brien.  And yes, he would be a very good person 
to 
speak with on this subject matter.

Joe Russeau


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Subject: Re: [TN] Final Surface finish


> Joyce,
>
> I think you nailed it.
>
> Immersion coatings have excellent copper coverage characteristices (due 
to 
> displacement reactions) but are also VERY thin. If you push for higher 
> deposit thickness (like everyone always wants) you get issues.
>
> Victor, you could run an SEM and energy dispersive x-ray map of the 
> surface and pin it to the patent.
>
> XRF as you've been advised is a fun task indeed. This is probably a new 
> formulation, so there might be issues finding good cal standards for the 

> XRF. I think our friend George O'Brien would have something useful to 
say 
> on XRF for you if he's lurking.
>
> Good hunting,
>
> Gerry
>
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:17:22 +0000
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>> Subject: Re: [TN] Final Surface finish
>> To: [log in to unmask]
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>> Whiskeys free immersion tin coating?  Like this?
>>  http://www.google.com/patents/EP2494094A2
>>
>> Joyce Koo
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Victor Hernandez
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:03 PM
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>>
>> This final surface finish does NOT appear to be a HASL process. Unless, 

>> the air knives pressure was so high that it did not leave ANY RIPPLES 
of 
>> the copper pad surface.
>> Victor,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike Fenner
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>>
>> Theoretically also PB-free HASL, I say theoretically because the usual 
>> alloy is Sn/Cu or modified Sn/Cu on cost grounds.
>>
>> Regards
>>
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>> Immersion Tin?
>> Ag is known to be the anti-whisker additive for most chemistries.
>> Best regards,
>>
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>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] De la part de Victor Hernandez 
>> Envoyé : mercredi 20 novembre 2013 18:15 À : [log in to unmask] Objet : 
[TN] 
>> Final Surface finish
>>
>> Fellow TechNetters:
>>
>>    Is there a final surface finish which has a high tin content along 
>> with
>> some silver.   It is not the traditional ImAg.   The finish appears 
>> somewhat
>> dull with good coverage on the edges of copper features.
>>
>> Victor,
>>
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