I thought it suppose used for
"> Zymet TC201 thermally conductive epoxy and Loctite 3621."
Different animal to use for solder paste.
Why you use EFD for solder paste? Assume not prototype - anything goes at prototype. (hand placement for flipchip too).
Joyce Koo
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Kondner
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 11:55 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Benchtop dispensers
Yes. The EFD where made by Nordson, I think.
The EFD concept (some time ago at least) was to use a Palm Pilot to drive
the RS-232 port, a true joke. The connector on the Palm Pilot kept falling
off!
I stuck a protocol analyzer in the link and decoded what they were doing. I
could reference this back to the ACL language definitions which can be
downloaded. I decoded their variable storage and "Atom" definitions. I wrote
a fairly nice software layer to operate the machine from a PC. (I write in
Delphi.)
After all this I realized how much the Nordson valves suck at dispensing
paste. And this was suck city with dispensing grade pastes which suck to
begin with. Total disaster of a project.
Bob K.
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 10:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Benchtop dispensers
Guess what? The Fisnar and the Nordson EFD benchtop dispensers appear to be
the exact same thing.
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of lduso - Diamond-MT.com
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Benchtop dispensers
You are correct, the 350 is the smallest and is a benchtop. I guess it
really depends on what is being dispensed. Good for conformal coating but
that was over kill for what I was looking for. I was more or less looking
for a simple robotic dispenser like Fisnar makes to dispense masking
material like liquid latex.
Jon is a great guy and definately knows his stuff. He was really helpful
with coming up with a good process for us to coat a rather strange item from
a customer.
Lloyd Duso
Diamond-MT
Plant Manager
(814) 535-3505
www.Diamond-mt.com
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:01 AM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I have always found their support to be excellent and very responsive.
> I like the fact that most of their machines are built from stock parts
> that you can get from Grainger or McMaster Carr. Only their
> controllers and their valves are custom to PVA. The thing that I like
> about the Pathmaster software, other than being easy to use, is that
> it is excellent for "tweaking" the program. Editing is very easy.
> Jon Merrill, their master programmer, REALLY knows his stuff.
>
> I am surprised to hear about the benchtop equipment. I have one of
> their
> PVA350 benchtops, which I still see on their web site. Now, the 350
> is only a 3 axis machine, but does pretty well for adhesive dispense.
> Did they discontinue ALL benchtops or just the 200 series?
>
> Doug Pauls
>
>
>
> From: "lduso - Diamond-MT.com" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>, Doug Pauls <
> [log in to unmask]>
> Date: 09/06/2013 07:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [TN] Benchtop dispensers
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Doug
>
> I agree with the PVA comment. I was just up to their plant last month.
> Great place and good people. Unfortunately, they stopped making the
> benchtop products. It used to be their 200 series. (I know because I
> asked for one when I was there.) Their software does look like a good
> user friendly style though.
>
> Lloyd Duso
> Diamond-MT
> Plant Manager
> (814) 535-3505
> *www.Diamond-mt.com* <http://www.diamond-mt.com/>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Douglas Pauls <*
> [log in to unmask]* <[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> Both Nordson EFD and PVA (Precision Valve and Automation) make good
> benchtop dispense units. Those are the two I would start with.
>
> I have more experience with the PVAs and have found PVA to be a good
> company to work with. I really like their Pathmaster software for
> programming and editing.
>
> Doug Pauls
>
>
>
> From: "Stadem, Richard D."
<*[log in to unmask]*<[log in to unmask]>
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> To: "*[log in to unmask]* <[log in to unmask]>" <*
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> Date: 09/06/2013 06:02 AM
> Subject: RE: [TN] Benchtop dispensers
>
>
>
> Zymet TC201 thermally conductive epoxy and Loctite 3621.
>
> From: *[log in to unmask]* <[log in to unmask]> [mailto:
> *[log in to unmask]* <[log in to unmask]>]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:27 PM
> To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Stadem, Richard D.
> Subject: Re: [TN] Benchtop dispensers
>
> What do you want to dispense?
>
> Doug Pauls
>
>
>
> From: "Stadem, Richard D."
<*[log in to unmask]*<[log in to unmask]>
> >
> To: <*[log in to unmask]* <[log in to unmask]>>
> Date: 09/05/2013 03:20 PM
> Subject: [TN] Benchtop dispensers
> Sent by: TechNet <*[log in to unmask]* <[log in to unmask]>>
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>
>
>
> I am seeking feedback from Those Who Know (you folks).
> I need to purchase a benchtop dispensing robot. I am looking at
> something like a Fisnar model F2304N-1 which is a 4-axis model, X, Y, Z,
and R.
> I am looking at Fisnar, EFD, Fishman, and other similar manufacturers.
> I would like feedback from the Forum as to which vendors you might
> recommend, bad experiences, what to look for, etc.
> You are always free to contact me on the Forum or offline. I will even
> take you out and buy you a few beers if you're not too far away!
> Thanks for any feedback
> dean
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