Que?  Structural strengths...? Remember some people, like me, have
rudimental brains..
Inge


On 14 August 2013 19:14, Ed Popielarski <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Greg,
>
> I hope you don't mind I changed the thread subject line. It will be easier
> sorting later.
>
> I hope everyone contributes to your quest as enthusiastically as they have
> to the root thread!
>
> One area I see very little understanding is structural strengths.
> Architectural techniques can be scaled down sometimes to help with tooling,
> etc. as well as PCB mousebite strength (weight vs. thermal excursion), etc.
> Seems the typical "EE" and "IE" curricula overlook this fundamental
> engineering skill.
>
> Ed Popielarski
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Greg Munie
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:02 AM
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> Subject: Re: [TN] Refreshment
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> I have been following this thread on TN and have three observations.
>
> Design training in academia that can lead to actual PCB design seems rare.
> (We have an initiative to work with academia in this but it's just
> starting.)
>
> Corporate America doesn't seem to have their heart in training designers
> hence the comment that " sent to China" sounds, to me, rather accurate.
>
> At IPC we are hoping to provide designer training that makes sense, i.e. a
> designer can make the case to the people who hold the purse strings that
> IPC education has VALUE to the bottom line.
>
> Having said all that (and trying to avoid too much of a commercial pitch)
> discussions like these bring out a lot of good points. I would be
> interested in what the group thinks is needed in design training in the US.
>
> Maybe . . . I can take your thoughts and run them up the IPC flagpole and
> see if IPC can generate industry support for better training in ALL areas
> where it's needed.
>
> Greg Munie
>
> IPC Director of Design Programs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pete
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:58 AM
> To: Technet
> Subject: Re: [TN] Refreshment
>
> A really interesting insight about the googleization of a generation.  I
> heard about a study recently that concluded that we are becoming less
> intelligent because of the ability to search for answers instantly.  My
> initial reaction was that they may be wrong.  Anecdotally, I have learned
> an awful lot that I never expected to learn, only because I could find
> people on the internet to teach me.  It's probably how I ended up here.
>
> Then Ed makes the counterpoint.  All this knowledge is on the internet
> thanks to the pioneers who learned it and shared it.  If the next
> generation is learning from the internet instead of research, have we
> reached the zenith of human knowledge with the passing of the pre-google
> generation?
>
> From the PCB designer perspective, the problem seems even more dire.
>  Education is hard to come by.  Companies don't see it as a separate skill
> set, so it gets pawned off on EEs who would rather be designing circuitry
> or sent to China where they are inculturated to recycle knowledge rather
> than expand it.
>
> If it makes anyone feel better, there's a few out there.  My son is now
> seeking to take his EE/CE degree into the research arena (hoping to hear
> from SLAC any day now), just using what he already knows has become boring.
>  So at least there's one.
>
> Pete
>
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