Pittsburgh is now a pleasant mid-sized American city, It wasn't so clean
and livable in the past. In 1948, 30 people died from air pollution in
Donora Pennsylvania. When I was a child, there were no crabs in New York
Harbor; crabs are there now. In general, US cities are a lot cleaner
than they were.
Perhaps the Chinese will eventually clean their environment. Some of
these issues are global.
Karen Tellefsen - Electrical Testing
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From: "Stadem, Richard D." <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: 06/05/2013 04:29 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC:american jobs
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All that has already happened, quite a long time ago.
The Chinese have complete wholesale processes making fake components in
several cities. The rivers are so polluted they cannot clean the water
enough to use for cleaning the counterfeit components after stripping them
off the boards. I have walked through the cities such as Hangzhao and
Shaoxing and saw the piles of electronic ICs and every other type of
component piled on cheesecloth on the sidewalks during the rainy season,
as the rain is the only water clean enough. The pollution and
unemployment right now is beyond belief. They develop their economy by
theft of intellectual property, not by product development.
Compared to Chinese cities, Pittsburgh looks like Stenunsund or Grindevik.
I had a few in the Gardscafe awhile back. The Swedish ale was definitely a
cut above Iron City Beer!
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge Hernefjord
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 3:09 PM
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Subject: [TN] NTC:american jobs
Up and then, frustrated members mention about the chinese taking the jobs
from americans. I don't know when exactly the pendulum will swing back,
but that will happen. The chinese stampede will end in disaster. Several
hundred millions chinese want same standard as have their lucky
neighbours, the rich and the prosperous middle class in the chinese
cities. And the government wants an economy development level at 5-7 %
year after year.
Imagine what that means. You need not be PhD or economy expert nor a
environment expert to see what will happen:
.- fresh water will not be available for all
- the ground water will fade
- they will need build thousands of waste water cleaning stations within
a few years
- Thousands of new industries will be built, but who will buy the enormous
lots of products
- the air will be so polluted that those with money will move
- they will have not one Pittsburg but lots of
- they forget, in the enormous building of new cities, that everything
that was built the last twenty years must be maintained and repaired next
decade or so. Will cost thousands billions.
- hundred thousands of doctor titulated will drown the country, finding no
jobs, polticians will be mistrusted -fast development of African and other
countries will minimize these countries's need of importing from China.
-lack of electricity
-lack of raw materials
-lack of oil
-infrastructural needs, too short time to cope with the rural expansion
- more that I don't see
Imagine a mile long train rushing at maximum speed and in front of the
locomotive workers who build new rails. When the two don't match, the
train will run on sand and the stop will be violent.
The chinese are incredible on most. but even the best will be exhausted if
pushed too hard.
I think the nations around will finally get enough and see to their own.
Some have already begun, see the german toll increase of cheap solar
panels from China, as an example.
The US does not have all those problems above. You are quite safe and well
equipped compared to the hundreds million chinese who will never see such
a living like in America.
Inge
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