Where is the hub of cosmic space? Where is your fixed registration
point? Sorry, your analogy does not satisfy me. If the helix speculation
(not even a hypothesis) were true, everything in the universe would
describe a spiral, right down to the electrons round the atoms in your
brain (and I mean before you reach your fridge, not after)
Btian
On 16.06.2013 17:05, Inge Hernefjord wrote:
> Hmmm.....Let Sun be the hub in your bycycle wheel and the air valve be
> Earth, then place the bycycle on one of the blades of a wind power
> station. In this system, the air valve will�touch a switch and a lamp,
> both are fixed�to the bycycle frame. By doing continous measurements,
> you can see that the hub, the air valve and the�lamp do not change
> position�vs each other.�Each time it passes the switch the lamp blinks
> and an immediate vector measurement is done. The computing says that the
> air valve rotates perfectly around the hub. To get the air valve
> deviate, you would need to manipulate the strong forces (the spokes)
> that keep the wheel together as one and the same physical status. Even a
> very small deviation of the spokes would cause dangerous situations,
> even risk that the whole bycycle collapses. Very accurate measurements
> would reveal microscopical changes due to wear in the bearings and
> fatigue in the metals, but over shorter intervals, the changes are
> neglidgible. If you registered the air valve position vs. time, �from a
> fixed position on the windmill's blade, you would get xyz values and a
> time axis. If these were presented per second, you would get the
> imagination of a spiral. If you place the windmill on the deck of a
> carrier that runs in a circle with a fixed registration point deck vs
> windmill blade, you'd get a spiral too. You get a small spiral modified
> by a larger spiral modified by a larger spiral etc. The longer from the
> bycycle system, the larger screen is needed, if you don't use a
> exponential scale. In the video, it seems as if the spectator
> (registering unit) is placed in Orion. The video does not represent
> physical maps for orientation but course of events.
> �
> For me, all this is rather meaningless, I'm more interested in finding
> my way to the fridge. I'm sure I never go in spirals to find it but make
> very regular returns to exactly same fridgerator.
>
>
> On 16 June 2013 01:57, Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> How do you define position in universal space? I realise that
> helical movement sounds logical but it ain't if you think about it
> and astronomers deny this speculation. Astronomy is far too complex
> a science for little me to even start to understand.
>
> Don't forget that gravity is still a theory but don't sit under an
> apple tree!
>
> Brian
>
>
> On 16.06.2013 11:32, Inge Hernefjord wrote:
>
> Awesome! Never been thinking that way. So, for a observer with a
> fixed
> position in the universe, our planet never never returns to the same
> position. The conclusion is that NOTHING returns to same place,
> because all
> systems move.
>
> Inge
>
>
> On 15 June 2013 22:48, Pat Goodyear <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> Want to see a cool concept of our solar system and our
> galaxy check out in
> youtube �the videos by DJSanhu here is one link
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?*__*v=C4V-ooITrws
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=C4V-ooITrws><http://www.__youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-__ooITrws
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws>> �Gives one
> something to think about.
>
>
>
> pat
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Stadem, Richard D. wrote:
>
> � This was a great string until it got gory. :-)
>
>
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> Oh my, this is starting to sound more and more like it
> has been narrated
> by Morgan Freeman!
>
> When we consider that the universe is indeed expanding
> and that expansion
> is accelerating, there is proof the system is dynamic
> and always in motion.
> This leads us to the existence of dark matter and dark
> energy, this tightly
> coupled to the TOE (theory of everything), but c'mon
> guys, it's Friday and
> I really don't want to think that hard!
>
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> the internet. He
> cryptically encoded the theory of everything in the
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:17 AM
> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>
> Very good. Weight and mass only exist with respect to
> gravity and
> movement (time). In space there is no gravity, so if you
> hang the
> individual planets in a big basket, they will weigh
> nothing with respect to
> space as a whole, or they will weigh a varying weight
> with respect to where
> they are in the continuum as related to the mass of
> other bodies traveling
> nearby. But nobody knows the constant of time (Tk)with
> respect to the
> universe, ie, if the great God Inge were to hold the
> scale, is he standing
> still in the continuum, or is there, in fact, no static
> universe, such that
> Inge is never standing still, but time revolves around
> and through him? Or
> does the great God Inge only think he is standing still,
> while the universe
> in its ultimate infinity whirls around him as if he was
> but a piece of dust?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Inge Hernefjord
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:47 PM
> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>
> Deer Tecnet,
>
> Hou can you saj so and so meny kilos. On scool I teached
> myselv that
> somesing weiht becaose of it is draw to the centre of
> earth, a hazelnutt, a
> ass, about or a women, all are relatez to pull powder of
> eart. Now, watt is
> this plannet �related too? The eart must be in a
> ballance cup or hang in a
> spring, then yo can saj hou much this plannet weighted.
>
> Eina
>
>
> On 14 June 2013 05:00, Steven Creswick
> <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
> � Good one Denny!
>
>
> Have you been dipping into Doug's Dew?
>
>
> For the earth-moon distance, it would be a matter of
> calculating a new
> Lagrangian point for a closer moon-earth orbit -
> right? �At the Lagrangian
> Pt, her body would be equally attracted to the earth
> and moon, so she might
> have to jump just a bit to get on the moon-side of
> the L Pt.
>
> Must be some equations for that.
>
> Steve C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Dennis Fritz
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 7:43 AM
> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>
> 1. Eartha massa issa 5.972E24 kg
>
> 2, Canna fly me to da moona - es only inna song.
>
> Denny
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Inge Hernefjord <[log in to unmask]
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> To: TechNet <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Sent: Fri, Jun 14, 2013 5:11 am
> Subject: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>
>
> Gud Morning,
> it was Fridai and I had too cuestions. Thei are not
> imported. For you
> not mportent.
> 1. How much did this plannet weighted?
> 2. How cluse must Moon came to the our �plannet to
> pull me avay so I can
> ly?
> It was not very intresting to knew. Thank for a goud
> anser. No.
> Eina Steina
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