You need not regurgitate, my citrus friend, I piffle as usual, but with a
grain of sense. I said: I am of the opinion that the helix model works,
seen from the VIRTUAL hubs, I did NOT insist that such fixed positions
exist. So, I am completely on your side, and I am unadulterate when I say :
best to be on Brian's side, 'cause he's always right.
Inge
PS I am happy that the way to the fridge is straight. When I opened the
door I found left over grilled chicken from yesterday,
On 16 June 2013 07:54, Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Where is the hub of cosmic space? Where is your fixed registration point?
> Sorry, your analogy does not satisfy me. If the helix speculation (not even
> a hypothesis) were true, everything in the universe would describe a
> spiral, right down to the electrons round the atoms in your brain (and I
> mean before you reach your fridge, not after)
>
> Btian
>
>
> On 16.06.2013 17:05, Inge Hernefjord wrote:
>
>> Hmmm.....Let Sun be the hub in your bycycle wheel and the air valve be
>> Earth, then place the bycycle on one of the blades of a wind power
>> station. In this system, the air valve will�touch a switch and a lamp,
>> both are fixed�to the bycycle frame. By doing continous measurements,
>> you can see that the hub, the air valve and the�lamp do not change
>> position�vs each other.�Each time it passes the switch the lamp blinks
>> and an immediate vector measurement is done. The computing says that the
>> air valve rotates perfectly around the hub. To get the air valve
>> deviate, you would need to manipulate the strong forces (the spokes)
>> that keep the wheel together as one and the same physical status. Even a
>> very small deviation of the spokes would cause dangerous situations,
>> even risk that the whole bycycle collapses. Very accurate measurements
>> would reveal microscopical changes due to wear in the bearings and
>> fatigue in the metals, but over shorter intervals, the changes are
>> neglidgible. If you registered the air valve position vs. time, �from a
>> fixed position on the windmill's blade, you would get xyz values and a
>> time axis. If these were presented per second, you would get the
>> imagination of a spiral. If you place the windmill on the deck of a
>> carrier that runs in a circle with a fixed registration point deck vs
>> windmill blade, you'd get a spiral too. You get a small spiral modified
>> by a larger spiral modified by a larger spiral etc. The longer from the
>> bycycle system, the larger screen is needed, if you don't use a
>> exponential scale. In the video, it seems as if the spectator
>> (registering unit) is placed in Orion. The video does not represent
>> physical maps for orientation but course of events.
>> �
>> For me, all this is rather meaningless, I'm more interested in finding
>> my way to the fridge. I'm sure I never go in spirals to find it but make
>> very regular returns to exactly same fridgerator.
>>
>>
>> On 16 June 2013 01:57, Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> How do you define position in universal space? I realise that
>> helical movement sounds logical but it ain't if you think about it
>> and astronomers deny this speculation. Astronomy is far too complex
>> a science for little me to even start to understand.
>>
>> Don't forget that gravity is still a theory but don't sit under an
>> apple tree!
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> On 16.06.2013 11:32, Inge Hernefjord wrote:
>>
>> Awesome! Never been thinking that way. So, for a observer with a
>> fixed
>> position in the universe, our planet never never returns to the
>> same
>> position. The conclusion is that NOTHING returns to same place,
>> because all
>> systems move.
>>
>> Inge
>>
>>
>> On 15 June 2013 22:48, Pat Goodyear <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>**> wrote:
>>
>> Want to see a cool concept of our solar system and our
>> galaxy check out in
>> youtube �the videos by DJSanhu here is one link
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?***__*v=C4V-ooITrws<http://www.youtube.com/watch?*__*v=C4V-ooITrws>
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>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=C4V-ooITrws<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws>>>
>> �Gives one
>> something to think about.
>>
>>
>>
>> pat
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Stadem, Richard D. wrote:
>>
>> � This was a great string until it got gory. :-)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Oh my, this is starting to sound more and more like it
>> has been narrated
>> by Morgan Freeman!
>>
>> When we consider that the universe is indeed expanding
>> and that expansion
>> is accelerating, there is proof the system is dynamic
>> and always in motion.
>> This leads us to the existence of dark matter and dark
>> energy, this tightly
>> coupled to the TOE (theory of everything), but c'mon
>> guys, it's Friday and
>> I really don't want to think that hard!
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:17 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>>
>> Very good. Weight and mass only exist with respect to
>> gravity and
>> movement (time). In space there is no gravity, so if you
>> hang the
>> individual planets in a big basket, they will weigh
>> nothing with respect to
>> space as a whole, or they will weigh a varying weight
>> with respect to where
>> they are in the continuum as related to the mass of
>> other bodies traveling
>> nearby. But nobody knows the constant of time (Tk)with
>> respect to the
>> universe, ie, if the great God Inge were to hold the
>> scale, is he standing
>> still in the continuum, or is there, in fact, no static
>> universe, such that
>> Inge is never standing still, but time revolves around
>> and through him? Or
>> does the great God Inge only think he is standing still,
>> while the universe
>> in its ultimate infinity whirls around him as if he was
>> but a piece of dust?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Inge Hernefjord
>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:47 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>>
>> Deer Tecnet,
>>
>> Hou can you saj so and so meny kilos. On scool I teached
>> myselv that
>> somesing weiht becaose of it is draw to the centre of
>> earth, a hazelnutt, a
>> ass, about or a women, all are relatez to pull powder of
>> eart. Now, watt is
>> this plannet �related too? The eart must be in a
>> ballance cup or hang in a
>> spring, then yo can saj hou much this plannet weighted.
>>
>> Eina
>>
>>
>> On 14 June 2013 05:00, Steven Creswick
>> <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]**com<[log in to unmask]>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> � Good one Denny!
>>
>>
>> Have you been dipping into Doug's Dew?
>>
>>
>> For the earth-moon distance, it would be a matter of
>> calculating a new
>> Lagrangian point for a closer moon-earth orbit -
>> right? �At the Lagrangian
>> Pt, her body would be equally attracted to the earth
>> and moon, so she might
>> have to jump just a bit to get on the moon-side of
>> the L Pt.
>>
>> Must be some equations for that.
>>
>> Steve C
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Dennis Fritz
>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 7:43 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>>
>> 1. Eartha massa issa 5.972E24 kg
>>
>> 2, Canna fly me to da moona - es only inna song.
>>
>> Denny
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Inge Hernefjord <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]**>>
>> To: TechNet <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]
>> >>
>> Sent: Fri, Jun 14, 2013 5:11 am
>> Subject: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>>
>>
>> Gud Morning,
>> it was Fridai and I had too cuestions. Thei are not
>> imported. For you
>> not mportent.
>> 1. How much did this plannet weighted?
>> 2. How cluse must Moon came to the our �plannet to
>> pull me avay so I can
>> ly?
>> It was not very intresting to knew. Thank for a goud
>> anser. No.
>> Eina Steina
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