Hmmm.....Let Sun be the hub in your bycycle wheel and the air valve be
Earth, then place the bycycle on one of the blades of a wind power station.
In this system, the air valve will touch a switch and a lamp, both are
fixed to the bycycle frame. By doing continous measurements, you can see
that the hub, the air valve and the lamp do not change position vs each
other. Each time it passes the switch the lamp blinks and an immediate
vector measurement is done. The computing says that the air valve rotates
perfectly around the hub. To get the air valve deviate, you would need to
manipulate the strong forces (the spokes) that keep the wheel together as
one and the same physical status. Even a very small deviation of the spokes
would cause dangerous situations, even risk that the whole bycycle
collapses. Very accurate measurements would reveal microscopical changes
due to wear in the bearings and fatigue in the metals, but over shorter
intervals, the changes are neglidgible. If you registered the air valve
position vs. time, from a fixed position on the windmill's blade, you
would get xyz values and a time axis. If these were presented per second,
you would get the imagination of a spiral. If you place the windmill on the
deck of a carrier that runs in a circle with a fixed registration point
deck vs windmill blade, you'd get a spiral too. You get a small spiral
modified by a larger spiral modified by a larger spiral etc. The longer
from the bycycle system, the larger screen is needed, if you don't use a
exponential scale. In the video, it seems as if the spectator (registering
unit) is placed in Orion. The video does not represent physical maps for
orientation but course of events.
For me, all this is rather meaningless, I'm more interested in finding my
way to the fridge. I'm sure I never go in spirals to find it but make very
regular returns to exactly same fridgerator.
On 16 June 2013 01:57, Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> How do you define position in universal space? I realise that helical
> movement sounds logical but it ain't if you think about it and astronomers
> deny this speculation. Astronomy is far too complex a science for little me
> to even start to understand.
>
> Don't forget that gravity is still a theory but don't sit under an apple
> tree!
>
> Brian
>
>
> On 16.06.2013 11:32, Inge Hernefjord wrote:
>
>> Awesome! Never been thinking that way. So, for a observer with a fixed
>> position in the universe, our planet never never returns to the same
>> position. The conclusion is that NOTHING returns to same place, because
>> all
>> systems move.
>>
>> Inge
>>
>>
>> On 15 June 2013 22:48, Pat Goodyear <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Want to see a cool concept of our solar system and our galaxy check out
>>> in
>>> youtube the videos by DJSanhu here is one link
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?****v=C4V-ooITrws<http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=C4V-ooITrws>
>>> <http://www.**youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-**ooITrws<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4V-ooITrws>>
>>> Gives one something to think about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> pat
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Stadem, Richard D. wrote:
>>>
>>> This was a great string until it got gory. :-)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ed Popielarski
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 1:37 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>>>>
>>>> Oh my, this is starting to sound more and more like it has been narrated
>>>> by Morgan Freeman!
>>>>
>>>> When we consider that the universe is indeed expanding and that
>>>> expansion
>>>> is accelerating, there is proof the system is dynamic and always in
>>>> motion.
>>>> This leads us to the existence of dark matter and dark energy, this
>>>> tightly
>>>> coupled to the TOE (theory of everything), but c'mon guys, it's Friday
>>>> and
>>>> I really don't want to think that hard!
>>>>
>>>> But, therein lies indirect proof that Al Gore invented the internet. He
>>>> cryptically encoded the theory of everything in the spelling of
>>>> "potatoe",
>>>> a cleverly hidden acronym for the "Postulate Of The Assertable Theory Of
>>>> Everything". Brilliant man, he was.
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>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:17 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>>>>
>>>> Very good. Weight and mass only exist with respect to gravity and
>>>> movement (time). In space there is no gravity, so if you hang the
>>>> individual planets in a big basket, they will weigh nothing with
>>>> respect to
>>>> space as a whole, or they will weigh a varying weight with respect to
>>>> where
>>>> they are in the continuum as related to the mass of other bodies
>>>> traveling
>>>> nearby. But nobody knows the constant of time (Tk)with respect to the
>>>> universe, ie, if the great God Inge were to hold the scale, is he
>>>> standing
>>>> still in the continuum, or is there, in fact, no static universe, such
>>>> that
>>>> Inge is never standing still, but time revolves around and through him?
>>>> Or
>>>> does the great God Inge only think he is standing still, while the
>>>> universe
>>>> in its ultimate infinity whirls around him as if he was but a piece of
>>>> dust?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge Hernefjord
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:47 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>>>>
>>>> Deer Tecnet,
>>>>
>>>> Hou can you saj so and so meny kilos. On scool I teached myselv that
>>>> somesing weiht becaose of it is draw to the centre of earth, a
>>>> hazelnutt, a
>>>> ass, about or a women, all are relatez to pull powder of eart. Now,
>>>> watt is
>>>> this plannet related too? The eart must be in a ballance cup or hang
>>>> in a
>>>> spring, then yo can saj hou much this plannet weighted.
>>>>
>>>> Eina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 June 2013 05:00, Steven Creswick <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good one Denny!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you been dipping into Doug's Dew?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the earth-moon distance, it would be a matter of calculating a new
>>>>> Lagrangian point for a closer moon-earth orbit - right? At the
>>>>> Lagrangian
>>>>> Pt, her body would be equally attracted to the earth and moon, so she
>>>>> might
>>>>> have to jump just a bit to get on the moon-side of the L Pt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Must be some equations for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve C
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dennis Fritz
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 7:43 AM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Eartha massa issa 5.972E24 kg
>>>>>
>>>>> 2, Canna fly me to da moona - es only inna song.
>>>>>
>>>>> Denny
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Inge Hernefjord <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Fri, Jun 14, 2013 5:11 am
>>>>> Subject: [TN] NTC: too coestions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gud Morning,
>>>>> it was Fridai and I had too cuestions. Thei are not imported. For you
>>>>> not mportent.
>>>>> 1. How much did this plannet weighted?
>>>>> 2. How cluse must Moon came to the our plannet to pull me avay so I
>>>>> can
>>>>> ly?
>>>>> It was not very intresting to knew. Thank for a goud anser. No.
>>>>> Eina Steina
>>>>>
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