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Mine would die of shock if she caught me operating the dishwasher.
On the other hand, she would understand there is no better way to clean the carburetor....

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From: Whittaker, Dewey (EHCOE) [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:08 PM
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Stadem, Richard D.
Subject: RE: [TN] Conformal Coating and J1 / 610

There's no way of coating over this; my wife would die from shock if I was operating the dryer.
Dewey

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Conformal Coating and J1 / 610

Perhaps not. Would you rather die from electrical shock while operating the dryer, or die from a plane crash?

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tontis, Theodore
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Conformal Coating and J1 / 610

I think there should be different levels identified for coating.

For example, the coating used on a flight control board is more critical than the coating on an appliance. Both have a requirement for coating but their acceptability requirements are different.

Also, acceptability requirement for reworked sections of coating.    

Ted T.

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas Pauls
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Conformal Coating and J1 / 610

Hey, Wookies are people too. 

But that is one of the anticipated areas for improvement - what kinds of things are cosmetic only and don't impact reliability or quality, and what things ARE, and what kinds of things are "process indicators".

And a commonly heard thing in the past few years are customers that want the boards to be "purdy" and reject on cosmetics alone.  That is one area to address.

Doug Pauls



From:   Lloyd Duso <[log in to unmask]>
To:     "'TechNet E-Mail Forum'" <[log in to unmask]>, 
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Date:   03/07/2013 10:17 AM
Subject:        RE: [TN] Conformal Coating and J1 / 610



And the curse of Wookie breath if you want to include "cosmetic looks"
to the standard!!

Lloyd E Duso
Diamond-MT
Plant Manager
(814) 535-3505
 


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas Pauls
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:06 AM
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Subject: [TN] Conformal Coating and J1 / 610

Greetings Citizens of the Galactic Empire.  You have all been annexed and the Republic is dissolved.  You are now all my minions.
If you do not have an open can of toluene on YOUR desktop, you miss out on some wonderful hallucinations.

At the recent IPC Apex meetings, as the Chairman of the Cleaning and Coating groups, I was asked to tackle the conformal coat provisions in
IPC-J-STD-001 and IPC-A-610.  I agreed (Proof positive I am an idiot). 
Leave it alone Dewey.  The coating groups have known for a long time that these documents need attention, and the time is right at both of those documents move towards Revision F. 

To assist the small working group that is/will be working on this over the next 6 months, I plan on making use of this forum to gather information. I have always been impressed by the summary wisdom of Technet.

So, first question:

1.  With J-STD-001 and/or IPC-A-610, what areas are NOT presently addressed, but need to be?

The Death Star will be dispatched to those areas not participating.......

Doug Pauls
Chairman, IPC Cleaning and Coating Committees Galactic Emperor


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