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I think the standard break down (Class 1, Class 2 and class 3) would be
clear enough and has become the unofficial industry standard.

 

I agree breaking each down to a sub-designator would be a nightmare and
require a definition for each one.

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:55 AM
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Tontis, Theodore
Subject: Re: [TN] Conformal Coating and J1 / 610

 

Thank you Ted.   

J1 and 610 have Class 1, Class 2, and Class 3 designations.  If we
separated out coating requirements between Class 1, 2, 3, do you feel
that would be an adequate discriminator, or do you feel that we would
need some form of sub-designators, e.g. Class 3 Aerospace, Class 3
Medical, etc.?  That would be a Pandora's box in my opinion. 

Doug Pauls 



From:        "Tontis, Theodore" <[log in to unmask]> 
To:        <[log in to unmask]> 
Date:        03/07/2013 10:46 AM 
Subject:        Re: [TN] Conformal Coating and J1 / 610 
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I think there should be different levels identified for coating.

For example, the coating used on a flight control board is more critical
than the coating on an appliance. Both have a requirement for coating
but their acceptability requirements are different.

Also, acceptability requirement for reworked sections of coating.    

Ted T.

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ] On
Behalf Of Douglas Pauls
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:33 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Conformal Coating and J1 / 610

Hey, Wookies are people too. 

But that is one of the anticipated areas for improvement - what kinds of
things are cosmetic only and don't impact reliability or quality, and
what things ARE, and what kinds of things are "process indicators".

And a commonly heard thing in the past few years are customers that want
the boards to be "purdy" and reject on cosmetics alone.  That is one
area to address.

Doug Pauls



From:   Lloyd Duso <[log in to unmask]>
To:     "'TechNet E-Mail Forum'" <[log in to unmask]>, 
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Date:   03/07/2013 10:17 AM
Subject:        RE: [TN] Conformal Coating and J1 / 610



And the curse of Wookie breath if you want to include "cosmetic looks"
to the standard!!

Lloyd E Duso
Diamond-MT
Plant Manager
(814) 535-3505



-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> ] On
Behalf Of Douglas Pauls
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:06 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] Conformal Coating and J1 / 610

Greetings Citizens of the Galactic Empire.  You have all been annexed
and the Republic is dissolved.  You are now all my minions.
If you do not have an open can of toluene on YOUR desktop, you miss out
on some wonderful hallucinations.

At the recent IPC Apex meetings, as the Chairman of the Cleaning and
Coating groups, I was asked to tackle the conformal coat provisions in
IPC-J-STD-001 and IPC-A-610.  I agreed (Proof positive I am an idiot). 
Leave it alone Dewey.  The coating groups have known for a long time
that these documents need attention, and the time is right at both of
those documents move towards Revision F. 

To assist the small working group that is/will be working on this over
the next 6 months, I plan on making use of this forum to gather
information. I have always been impressed by the summary wisdom of
Technet.

So, first question:

1.  With J-STD-001 and/or IPC-A-610, what areas are NOT presently
addressed, but need to be?

The Death Star will be dispatched to those areas not
participating.......

Doug Pauls
Chairman, IPC Cleaning and Coating Committees Galactic Emperor


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