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I sense a "don't ask me how I know all this" lurking in the 
background......

Doug Pauls



From:   "Stadem, Richard D." <[log in to unmask]>
To:     <[log in to unmask]>
Date:   03/19/2013 02:46 PM
Subject:        Re: [TN] Solder pot capacity of Vitronics/Soltec 6622CC 
Wave solder machine
Sent by:        TechNet <[log in to unmask]>



For the other folks on Technet who may be listening. 
Do not allow the solder pot heater to remain on as you drain the last of 
the molten solder from the pot. Some molten solder is required to keep the 
pot element from overheating. When you get down to the last few pounds of 
solder, turn off the pot heater. The remaining solder will stay molten for 
a short while in the pot, usually long enough to drain the last of it out.
Refer to your wave solder/selective solder machine manuals for 
instructions on how to drain and replenish. Some pots require solder bars 
to be cut up into chunks, or as you drain the solder you can pour some off 
into muffin pans to form small ingots. Line the bottom of the pot with 
these ingots or cut up chunks when you first turn the pot back on. They 
will quickly melt and protect the elements from going into thermal 
runaway.

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ed Popielarski
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:34 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Solder pot capacity of Vitronics/Soltec 6622CC Wave 
solder machine

Steve,

That's why I described the heater layout to you, so you can activate only 
the heaters below the current solder line. As far as getting it out, I'm 
almost certain there is a valve on the bottom of the pot. Risky, but 
essential.

If I'm mistaken about the drain valve, you could always power it up on its 
side and let gravity assist.

Ed Popielarski
Engineering Manager


                               970 NE 21st Ct.
                              Oak Harbor, Wa. 98277

                              Ph: 360-675-1322
                              Fx: 206-624-0965
                              Cl: 949-581-6601


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gregory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:01 AM
To: Ed Popielarski; [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Solder pot capacity of Vitronics/Soltec 6622CC Wave 
solder machine

Thanks Ed!

I'm learning more & more about this machine as the days tick down, and I 
haven't even seen it yet. To further complicate matters, I understand that 
there's a couple of hundred pounds of what maybe be SAC307 in the bottom 
of the pot, was told that it was analysis was this: 96.17 % Tin, .54 % 
copper,
3.18 % silver. The machine is intended to be used as a 63/37 machine, and 
getting that residual solder out is going to be a bear because I 
understand that the bottom of the pot has what's called a "false bottom" 
or welded structure inside, so it's going to be tough. I don't think I can 
leave the solder inside the pot with hopes of adding new solder and it 
will dilute what's left in the pot down enough for the solder to be within 
spec, in fact I'm pretty sure it won't, the silver content is especially 
what worries me.

The previous emails from a few days ago about the tin content was with the 
existing wave that they have, now they have the -6622 coming in with this 
issue. Going to have my hands full when I get to Boise, that's for sure...

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Popielarski
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:07 PM
To: [log in to unmask] ; 'Steve Gregory'
Subject: RE: [TN] Solder pot capacity of Vitronics/Soltec 6622CC Wave 
solder machine

Below link says 700Kg = 1543.24. This might be lead-free, so I'd go with
1800 just to be safe.

http://www.smtnet.com/mart/index.cfm?fuseaction=view_item&item_id=74987


Ed Popielarski
Engineering Manager


                               970 NE 21st Ct.
                              Oak Harbor, Wa. 98277

                              Ph: 360-675-1322
                              Fx: 206-624-0965
                              Cl: 949-581-6601


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:54 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] Solder pot capacity of Vitronics/Soltec 6622CC Wave solder 
machine

Hi All!

Does anybody know what the solder pot capacity is of a Vitronics/Soltec 
6622CC wave solder machine is with tin/lead solder in it?

The reason I?m asking is because my new employer bought a used ?6622 and 
needs to know how much solder they should buy to be able to fill the pot. 
They have an old electrovert now that has a 500-lb pot that we?ll be 
using, and I told him that wouldn?t be enough to fill the Vitronics 
machine. I?m thinking the 6622 holds around 1,600 ?1,800 lbs., but I?m not 
sure...

Steve

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