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You are most welcome. Wish I could pocket the savings I have helped with over the years! But to know I may have saved somebody somewhere some grief is good enough.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg Owens [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:57 PM
To: Stadem, Richard D.
Subject: RE: [TN] Solder pot capacity of Vitronics/Soltec 6622CC Wave solder machine

Richard:

And that is why I enjoy technet so very much. Nothing is left the imagination or left unsaid. Thanks for such clarification, you just saved someone $1,000s of dollars making that mistake. 

Bravo!

Gregg

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:31 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Solder pot capacity of Vitronics/Soltec 6622CC Wave solder machine

For the other folks on Technet who may be listening. 
Do not allow the solder pot heater to remain on as you drain the last of the molten solder from the pot. Some molten solder is required to keep the pot element from overheating. When you get down to the last few pounds of solder, turn off the pot heater. The remaining solder will stay molten for a short while in the pot, usually long enough to drain the last of it out.
Refer to your wave solder/selective solder machine manuals for instructions on how to drain and replenish. Some pots require solder bars to be cut up into chunks, or as you drain the solder you can pour some off into muffin pans to form small ingots. Line the bottom of the pot with these ingots or cut up chunks when you first turn the pot back on. They will quickly melt and protect the elements from going into thermal runaway.

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ed Popielarski
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:34 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Solder pot capacity of Vitronics/Soltec 6622CC Wave solder machine

Steve,

That's why I described the heater layout to you, so you can activate only the heaters below the current solder line. As far as getting it out, I'm almost certain there is a valve on the bottom of the pot. Risky, but essential.

If I'm mistaken about the drain valve, you could always power it up on its side and let gravity assist.

Ed Popielarski
Engineering Manager


                               970 NE 21st Ct.
                              Oak Harbor, Wa. 98277

                              Ph: 360-675-1322
                              Fx: 206-624-0965
                              Cl: 949-581-6601


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Gregory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:01 AM
To: Ed Popielarski; [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Solder pot capacity of Vitronics/Soltec 6622CC Wave solder machine

Thanks Ed!

I'm learning more & more about this machine as the days tick down, and I haven't even seen it yet. To further complicate matters, I understand that there's a couple of hundred pounds of what maybe be SAC307 in the bottom of the pot, was told that it was analysis was this: 96.17 % Tin, .54 % copper,
3.18 % silver. The machine is intended to be used as a 63/37 machine, and getting that residual solder out is going to be a bear because I understand that the bottom of the pot has what's called a "false bottom" or welded structure inside, so it's going to be tough. I don't think I can leave the solder inside the pot with hopes of adding new solder and it will dilute what's left in the pot down enough for the solder to be within spec, in fact I'm pretty sure it won't, the silver content is especially what worries me.

The previous emails from a few days ago about the tin content was with the existing wave that they have, now they have the -6622 coming in with this issue. Going to have my hands full when I get to Boise, that's for sure...

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Popielarski
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:07 PM
To: [log in to unmask] ; 'Steve Gregory'
Subject: RE: [TN] Solder pot capacity of Vitronics/Soltec 6622CC Wave solder machine

Below link says 700Kg = 1543.24. This might be lead-free, so I'd go with
1800 just to be safe.

http://www.smtnet.com/mart/index.cfm?fuseaction=view_item&item_id=74987


Ed Popielarski
Engineering Manager


                               970 NE 21st Ct.
                              Oak Harbor, Wa. 98277

                              Ph: 360-675-1322
                              Fx: 206-624-0965
                              Cl: 949-581-6601


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 8:54 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] Solder pot capacity of Vitronics/Soltec 6622CC Wave solder machine

Hi All!

Does anybody know what the solder pot capacity is of a Vitronics/Soltec 6622CC wave solder machine is with tin/lead solder in it?

The reason I’m asking is because my new employer bought a used –6622 and needs to know how much solder they should buy to be able to fill the pot. 
They have an old electrovert now that has a 500-lb pot that we’ll be using, and I told him that wouldn’t be enough to fill the Vitronics machine. I’m thinking the 6622 holds around 1,600 –1,800 lbs., but I’m not sure...

Steve

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