Gosh, you sound like a really learned. The overwhelming is that you seem to
KNOW what you are talking about. Brian, why didn't you become a uni
professor or a researcher? Now I want hear an answer on this question: how
do we know that atoms 'spin' ? Is it simply an anticipated expression for
energy?

Inge

On 4 February 2013 16:47, Brian Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> You're just a youngster. The only elements we knew at school numbered
> exactly 92! No transuranic elements had even been made known at that time,
> although Np and Pu were discovered (but were known only to scientists)
> before I left school. I think Pu was announced publicly while I was a mere
> undergrad student at Uni.
>
> For the anecdote, I remember a discussion I had with my physics teacher
> about the new talk of "splitting the atom" and what it meant. I don't think
> he was really up to speed on it because I postulated that the atom was
> split in thermionic valves (tubes) and, above all, in cathode ray tubes and
> the like, because electrons were torn from their orbit, citing J.J. Thomson
> (yes, I was a precocious brat in the mid-40s!). He hum-hawed a bit and said
> that he didn't think that this was how energy was released in the recent
> Hiroshima/Nagasaki catastrophes. However, to his credit, he explained the
> outlines of the neutron chain reaction a week or two later; he must have
> researched the basics although he implied that radioactive substances all
> decayed into Pb. Meitner and Hahn had postulated transuranic elements
> several years earlier, but my long-suffering physics master had not delved
> that deeply into the subject, while he informed your obedient servant that
> neutrons could knock the bejabers out of the mix of protons and neutrons in
> the nuclei of U atoms. I can't remember whether he evoked critical mass.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brian
>
>
> On 03/02/2013 17:17, Mike Fenner wrote:
>
>> It would be an interesting challenge for Dave to come up with new
>> questions
>> for the same answers. OTOH I don't remember the first set (apart from
>> hardly
>> any elements have a biological function! So maybe not :)
>>
>> If you had had somewhat of an ancient education like me you will have been
>> taught there are only 96 elements, and perhaps thought nothing of it.
>> Having
>> said that I think some of the transition elements might be a challenge to
>> construct questions for.
>> Best Wishes
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian
>> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 9:54 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC Friday Element Quiz - The Answer
>>
>> Dave,
>> Yes, please!  Run a new element quiz.  Thank you for doing it!
>>
>> Question: if there are 112 elements and there are only 96 weeks of
>> questions, how did we cover them all?
>>
>> Bev
>> Blackberry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
>> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 4:41 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC Friday Element Quiz - The Answer
>>
>> I appeal to FEQAB:
>>
>> a) I gave you the right answer to the element on 28 January, long before
>> you asked the question
>> b) I know you must have consulted my ancient website at
>> http://www.cypenv.info/**worldee/files/hydrogen/**hydrogen_myths.aspx<http://www.cypenv.info/worldee/files/hydrogen/hydrogen_myths.aspx>to
>> know the true story about the Hindenburg disaster.
>>
>> Despite rumours, recent research showed that Alf Landon, FDR's opponent
>> for the Presidency in 1936, did not send a hit man up the mooring mast
>> with a box of matches. This conspiracy theory was sparked (pun intended)
>> by one of the bodies on the ground having been burnt to a cinder. In any
>> case, the draught from the propellers would have blown out the match.
>> Consult the above link for the facts.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On 02/02/2013 05:49, David D. Hillman wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks - Here is the Friday Element Quiz Answer:
>>>
>>> The Question:
>>> The year is 1937. What is the element and the event associated with it?
>>>
>>> The Answer:
>>> The element is Hydrogen (H.) The event was the crash of Hindenburg
>>> airship. There are several theories on what caused the Hindenburg's crash
>>> - one of the leading ones is a hydrogen leak in the rear lift bags of the
>>> Hindenburg was ignited by static electricity generated by the
>>> thunderstorm
>>> at the Hindenburg's landing site. The crash of the Hindenburg is often
>>> cited as the cause of downfall of the airship industry.
>>>
>>>
>>> The winner of the weekly element quiz is Doug Pauls, Rockwell Collins,
>>> and
>>> he will get the services of Clumpy and Kloumpios for the week.
>>>
>>> The Friday Element Quiz Arbitration Board (FEQAB) has been reviewing
>>> Doug's submission with both Scanning Electron Microscopy and Ion
>>> Chromatography analysis techniques all day. FEQAB has come the final
>>> conclusion that Doug's response was the first correct answer submitted
>>> (they found no valid rationale to disqualify Doug's submission)! I saw
>>> Clumpy and Kloumpios drive out of the Rockwell parking lot heading for
>>> Doug's house when I was leaving work.
>>>
>>> And so we have finally covered 112 elements in the Periodic Table! It has
>>> been lots of fun for me as I have gotten the opportunity to meet and
>>> learn
>>> about many of the members of the TechNet community. We all use the
>>> elements in our jobs in various ways and I hope some of the strange
>>> and/or
>>> odd facts about the elements have made your work week a little less
>>> stressful. I picked up two new books on the elements so if it is
>>> acceptable with the TechNet community, we can start another round of the
>>> Friday Element Quiz. FEQAB is also adding some extra research staff in
>>> anticipation of Doug's future quiz submissions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Clumpy and Kloumpios have accomplished many tasks over the last 96 weeks
>>> for the following members of TechNet:
>>>
>>> Week 1 Lamar Young, SCS Coatings
>>> Week 2 Bev Christian, RIM
>>> Week 3 Drew Meyer, Benchmark Electronics Inc
>>> Week 4 Ian Fox, Goodrich
>>> Week 4 Gary Ferrari, Garrick Global
>>> Week 5 Fredrick Miller, Astrola
>>> Week 6 David Nelson, Raytheon
>>> Week 7 Graham Collins, L3 Communications
>>> Week 8 Bill Noel, ITT Geospatial Systems Division
>>> Week 9 Steve Gregory of RD Circuits
>>> Week 10 David Bealer of Watchfire Signs
>>> Week 11 Dick Krug of Sparton Corporation
>>> Week 12 Steve Creswick, Balanced Enterprise Solutions
>>> Week 13 Gebhard Neifer, Delphi
>>> Week 14 Bev Christian, RIM
>>> Week 15 Bev Christian, RIM
>>> Week 16 David Bealer of Watchfire Signs
>>> Week 17 Brian Ellis
>>> Week 18 Denny Fritz, SAIC
>>> Week 19 Graham Collins, L3 Communications
>>> Week 20 Mark Woolley, PTRL Laboratory Avaya
>>> Week 20 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security
>>> Week 21 Brian Ellis and Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense
>>> Week 22 Drew Meyer, Benchmark Electronics Inc.
>>> Week 23 Bev Christian, RIM
>>> Week 24 Steve Gregory, RD Circuits
>>> Week 25 Ahne Oosterhof, A-Laser
>>> Week 26 Scott Post, Delphi
>>> Week 27 Brian Ellis
>>> Week 28 Nigel Burtt
>>> Week 29 Richard Stadem,GD-AIS
>>> Week 30 Robert Wolfe, Kimchuk Inc and Graham Naisbitt, Gen3
>>> Week 31 Bev Christian, RIM Inc, and Denny Fritz, SAIC
>>> Week 32 Steve Mikell, supposedly retired
>>> Week 33 Mark Woolley, PTRL Laboratory Avaya
>>> Week 34 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>>> Week 35 Joe Russeau, Precision Analytical Laboratories
>>> Week 36 Patrick Goodyear, PGE
>>> Week 37 Dave Elder, Tait Radio Communications
>>> Week 38 Steve Mikell, supposedly retired
>>> Week 39 Andy Giamis, Commscope
>>> Week 40 Gebhard Neifer, Delphi
>>> Week 41 Ian Fox, Aero Engine Controls
>>> Week 42 Andy Giamis, Commscope
>>> Week 43: Bev Christian, RIM, Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.,
>>>            Patrick Goodyear, PGE and Richard Stadem,GD-AIS
>>> Week 44 Patrick Goodyear, PGE
>>> Week 45 Dock Brown, Medtronic
>>> Week 46 Dock Brown, Medtronic and Bev Christian, RIM
>>> Week 47 Graham Collins, L3 Communications
>>> Week 48 Mike Fenner, Indium
>>> Week 49 Reuven Rokah
>>> Week 50 Rex Waygood, Hansatech EMS
>>> Week 51 Bev Christian, RIM
>>> Week 52 Dock Brown, Medtronic
>>> Week 53 Ian Fox, Aero Engine Controls
>>> Week 54 Steve Mikell and Phil Anslow, MBDA Systems
>>> Week 55 Brian Ellis
>>> Week 56 Aleks Lozinsky, Technic Canada
>>> Week 57 Tan Geok Ang, NA
>>> Week 58 Gebhard Neifer, Delphi and Aleks Lozinsky, Technic Canada
>>> Week 59 Rex Waygood, Hansatech EMS
>>> Week 60 Torsten Hagge, Kristronics
>>> Week 61 Joshua Muonio, Analog Technologies Corp.
>>> Week 62 Dock Brown, Medtronics
>>> Week 63 Torsten Hagge, Kristronics
>>> Week 64 James Head, Crowcon
>>> Week 65 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security
>>> Week 66 Lamar Young, SCS Coating
>>> Week 67 Steve Creswick, Balanced Enterprise Solutions
>>> Week 68 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc
>>> Week 69 Denny Fritz, SAIC
>>> Week 70 Mordechai Kirshenbaum
>>> Week 71 Amol Kane, AsteelFlash US East Corp
>>> Week 72 Lamar Young, Specialty Coating Systems, Inc.
>>> Week 73 Keith Calhoun, Sopark Corporation and Joe Russeau, PAL
>>> Week 73.1 Mark Kostinovsky, Schlumberger
>>> Week 74 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense and Richard Stadem, GD-AIS
>>> Week 75 Graham Naisbitt, Gen3 System
>>> Week 76 Ian Fox, Aero Engine Controls
>>> Week 77 Richard Stadem, GD-AIS
>>> Week 78 Blair Hogg, GAI-Tronics
>>> Week 79 Brian Ellis
>>> Week 80 Mordechai Kirshenbaum
>>> Week 81 Brian Ellis
>>> Week 82 Joe Russeau, Precision Analytical Laboratories
>>> Week 83 Mark Kostinovsky, Schlumberger and Fred Cox, MET
>>> Week 84 Tom Granat, BAE Systems
>>> Week 85 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc
>>> Week 86 James Head, Crowcon Detection Instruments Limited
>>> Week 87 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>>> Week 88 Bev Christian, RIM
>>> Week 89 Tom Granat, BAE Systems
>>> Week 90 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc
>>> Week 91 Pat Goodyear, PGE and Joyce Koo, RIM
>>> Week 92 Phil Kinner, PVA and Torsten Hagge, Kristronics
>>> Week 93 Leland Woodall, CSTech Inc.
>>> Week 94 Ravinder Ajmani, HGST
>>> Week 95 Gebhard Neifer, Delphi
>>>
>>> Week 96 = Doug Pauls, Rockwell Collins
>>> - assisted with ????
>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone have a safe week!
>>>
>>> Dave Hillman
>>> Rockwell Collins
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